Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains?
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Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains?
I tried using the search function but could not find exactly what I was looking for. Next summer I plan on purchasing a header, full cat-back and a cold air intake for my D16y7, is it worth it or not? Will I notice any HP gains? I know with this set up, I'm not going to get 0-60 in 5secs but I need more pep when it comes to accelerating. What do you think? Anything else I should look into while I'll be working on the D16y7 in the meantime until I can afford a swap?
Thanks,
Fred
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Re: Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains? (Daddy Yankee)
nope go turbo....maybe about 5-15hp max with bolt ons and close to $1000 that could go toward boost
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Re: Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains? (PLAGUED_DB7)
yeah it's true for the price of all that you could gave a turbo kit that will boost your hp alot more
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why don't you just wait till you have enough money for a swap instead of getting turbo than swapping out for another motor... a B16? LS/VTEC?.... deal with your crappy D series for now... I'd rather boost a B than a D IMO...
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Re: (kevinEGcivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kevinEGcivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why don't you just wait till you have enough money for a swap instead of getting turbo than swapping out for another motor... a B16? LS/VTEC?.... deal with your crappy D series for now... I'd rather boost a B than a D IMO... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah that sounds like its best, thanks for the heads up guys! There's a reason why Honda-Tech is one of the best forums out there.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Donkey85 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is nothing wrong with taking a D and building it up</TD></TR></TABLE> Exactly
And whats with all the d-series haters out there?
And whats with all the d-series haters out there?
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Do whatever you want - whether it's B-series or Turbo D. Just don't waste your money on bolt-ons for the Y7. It's not worth it, it'll still feel slow.
As for people saying D-series are and all that BS, I bet I'm putting down more whp than most stock to bolt-on B-series swaps for half the cost!
As for people saying D-series are and all that BS, I bet I'm putting down more whp than most stock to bolt-on B-series swaps for half the cost!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Motorhead »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well, let's see. a)They're slow b) If you REALLY wanna make one fast, your gonna spend ALOT of money & it's gonna last about as long as a 15 yr old losin' his virginity. </TD></TR></TABLE>
$1000 or less=homemade turbo=b-series killa
p.s. oh and reliable too
Well, let's see. a)They're slow b) If you REALLY wanna make one fast, your gonna spend ALOT of money & it's gonna last about as long as a 15 yr old losin' his virginity. </TD></TR></TABLE>
$1000 or less=homemade turbo=b-series killa
p.s. oh and reliable too
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egSIboi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
$1000 or less=homemade turbo=b-series killa
p.s. oh and reliable too </TD></TR></TABLE>
my homemade turbo cost me roughly 650
$1000 or less=homemade turbo=b-series killa
p.s. oh and reliable too </TD></TR></TABLE>
my homemade turbo cost me roughly 650
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jeterkm02 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no reason to hate on d-series.. peep this
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=809133</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's not bad.. I made 195whp and 164wtq on 6.5psi on my stock D16Z6. Custom kit, btw.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=809133</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's not bad.. I made 195whp and 164wtq on 6.5psi on my stock D16Z6. Custom kit, btw.
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Re: Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains? (Daddy Yankee)
"listen to me smalls" u have a hatch right? good so u already got being light weight on your side. swap a d16y8 head and intake mani from any 96-00 civic ex on your block and get a ex tranny while your at it. than u can go for the bolt-ons and u will be decently quick.
all the guys talking about spending the same amount on a junkyard turbo kit, i don't see it. I am guessing Daddy yankee does not know a whole lot about turbos and we don't want to tell him how cheap he can get one for and next thing u know he blows his engine.
I spent about 600 on bolt-ons all brand new not used stuff. ebay is your friend.
ebay cold-air intake - 50 shipped
dc sports 4-1 header - 280 shipped
mangaflow cat-back (stainless steel) - 300 shipped
have fun with that yankee and then start researching.
all the guys talking about spending the same amount on a junkyard turbo kit, i don't see it. I am guessing Daddy yankee does not know a whole lot about turbos and we don't want to tell him how cheap he can get one for and next thing u know he blows his engine.
I spent about 600 on bolt-ons all brand new not used stuff. ebay is your friend.
ebay cold-air intake - 50 shipped
dc sports 4-1 header - 280 shipped
mangaflow cat-back (stainless steel) - 300 shipped
have fun with that yankee and then start researching.
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Re: Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains? (willyboyD16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by willyboyD16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I spent about 600 on bolt-ons all brand new not used stuff. ebay is your friend.
ebay cold-air intake - 50 shipped
dc sports 4-1 header - 280 shipped
mangaflow cat-back (stainless steel) - 300 shipped
have fun with that yankee and then start researching.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow! You spent 600 for 5 whp! Good investment!
Go turbo or go home.
Unless of course you are planning a swap.
I spent about 600 on bolt-ons all brand new not used stuff. ebay is your friend.
ebay cold-air intake - 50 shipped
dc sports 4-1 header - 280 shipped
mangaflow cat-back (stainless steel) - 300 shipped
have fun with that yankee and then start researching.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow! You spent 600 for 5 whp! Good investment!
Go turbo or go home.
Unless of course you are planning a swap.
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Re: Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains? (Daddy Yankee)
I wouldn't spend any $ on that motor if ur planning on a swap... just save save save.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Motorhead »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Never said there was anything WRONG with it. It just doesn't make alot of sense & isn't very cost effective. But hey, what do I know anyway? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Omg...I can't believe you just said that. Turbo D is the best deal you could possibly get if you put it into terms of cost vs. hp. Do your research man...This B vs. D argument never ends.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daddy Yankee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not going to get 0-60 in 5secs but I need more pep when it comes to accelerating. What do you think? Anything else I should look into while I'll be working on the D16y7 in the meantime until I can afford a swap?
Thanks,
Fred</TD></TR></TABLE>
First off, **** the bolt-ons, if you wanna improve your acceleration, get a y8 tranny. It'll make a bigger difference than intake and exhaust on your stock y7. Also, what are you plans with this car? Is it a daily driver or is it gonna see any track time? If mostly dd, then I'd suggest sticking with the D. No use swapping in a B,H, or K if you're not even gonna come close to using its full potential.
Never said there was anything WRONG with it. It just doesn't make alot of sense & isn't very cost effective. But hey, what do I know anyway? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Omg...I can't believe you just said that. Turbo D is the best deal you could possibly get if you put it into terms of cost vs. hp. Do your research man...This B vs. D argument never ends.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daddy Yankee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not going to get 0-60 in 5secs but I need more pep when it comes to accelerating. What do you think? Anything else I should look into while I'll be working on the D16y7 in the meantime until I can afford a swap?
Thanks,
Fred</TD></TR></TABLE>
First off, **** the bolt-ons, if you wanna improve your acceleration, get a y8 tranny. It'll make a bigger difference than intake and exhaust on your stock y7. Also, what are you plans with this car? Is it a daily driver or is it gonna see any track time? If mostly dd, then I'd suggest sticking with the D. No use swapping in a B,H, or K if you're not even gonna come close to using its full potential.
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Re: Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains? (willyboyD16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by willyboyD16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I spent about 600 on bolt-ons all brand new not used stuff. ebay is your friend.
ebay cold-air intake - 50 shipped
dc sports 4-1 header - 280 shipped
mangaflow cat-back (stainless steel) - 300 shipped
have fun with that yankee and then start researching.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Did you notice any gains with that set up? How much do you think you gained?
I spent about 600 on bolt-ons all brand new not used stuff. ebay is your friend.
ebay cold-air intake - 50 shipped
dc sports 4-1 header - 280 shipped
mangaflow cat-back (stainless steel) - 300 shipped
have fun with that yankee and then start researching.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Did you notice any gains with that set up? How much do you think you gained?
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Re: Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains? (Daddy Yankee)
Well i don't have any concrete numbers but i really felt pull in the top end. My lowend is really non-existant until around 3500 rpms.
for the poster about the 5-whp comment, its cool man that is your opinion. I was going to go turbo before the bolt-ons had just about everything except the fuel management but some personal things came up so i never went full-on into it.
I forone know exactly what i need if i was going to go turbo but some people are just getting into this scene and sometimes its better to crawl before u walk.
for the poster about the 5-whp comment, its cool man that is your opinion. I was going to go turbo before the bolt-ons had just about everything except the fuel management but some personal things came up so i never went full-on into it.
I forone know exactly what i need if i was going to go turbo but some people are just getting into this scene and sometimes its better to crawl before u walk.
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Re: Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains? (willyboyD16)
the way i feel about this is..... honda obviously manufactured a BAD *** new single cam motor for a reason and its ansestery happens to be .... the d-series motors... obviously honda must have thought their singlecams are solid motors.... I LOVE MY D-series...
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on the turbo d16 forum there is a guy who makes 400+whp and like 370 tq. a built d is way more fun than a b, and it cost so much less.
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Re: Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains? (Daddy Yankee)
turbo or a swap....I wouldnt waste the money for bolt ons when you can save up another 1000 and get a swap right away
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not a hater of d-series motors, i have a stock d16z6... with all the bolt ons... the problem in building this motor is that i have no time... yeah im gonna have to wait a while for my swap to be done but if i go turbo than i would really want to go internal for extra measure... that might take a while... even though they do make turbo for stock D's... thats just me... so my solution would be to swap it for a B series... and just bolt ons... thats it... i would go turbo... but my intentions are not to "smoke" the other guy on the red light... let alone a front mount causes for more attention and everyone will want to race you.... i simply just want enough power to be there when i really need it... like if im late for work or im in a hurry.... or if i just wanna go fast!!!..... not hating on the D (much love to d-series.org) or turbo........
but like i said if your just gonna swap your engine anyway... than whats the point of spending all that time putting in the turbo.... when you can do that to your b series? maybe you want to see the difference in power? idk... its your car dude do what you please!!!!!!!!!
so long as its a HONDA!!! im pretty sure everyone can agree on that...
but like i said if your just gonna swap your engine anyway... than whats the point of spending all that time putting in the turbo.... when you can do that to your b series? maybe you want to see the difference in power? idk... its your car dude do what you please!!!!!!!!!
so long as its a HONDA!!! im pretty sure everyone can agree on that...
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Re: Header, Full Cat-Back & New Intake? Worth it Or Not? HP Gains? (willyboyD16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by willyboyD16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I spent about 600 on bolt-ons all brand new not used stuff. ebay is your friend.
ebay cold-air intake - 50 shipped
dc sports 4-1 header - 280 shipped
mangaflow cat-back (stainless steel) - 300 shipped
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perfect example of what not to do with 600 dollars.
like i mentioned before i paid 650 for my homemade turbo kit.
and i assure you i spent my money more wisely, and by wisely i mean more whp.
I spent about 600 on bolt-ons all brand new not used stuff. ebay is your friend.
ebay cold-air intake - 50 shipped
dc sports 4-1 header - 280 shipped
mangaflow cat-back (stainless steel) - 300 shipped
</TD></TR></TABLE>
perfect example of what not to do with 600 dollars.
like i mentioned before i paid 650 for my homemade turbo kit.
and i assure you i spent my money more wisely, and by wisely i mean more whp.
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