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Old 05-23-2013, 01:57 PM
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How can i get more HP on my 2000 honda civic ex coupe
has stock engine + injen cold air intake + Soon to install yonaka catback exhaust
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what motor? D series? If so, swap it or boost it.
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Swap the engine or turbocharge it.
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Default Re: How to improve HP

Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Swap the engine or turbocharge it.
x2

these threads are so annoying now, do some research (google and read these forums)
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Just don't even bother doing intake and exhaust mods, it's a waste of money for power gains alone.

Oh wait...
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There is thread already dedicated to your question OP

How do I make my civic faster

^Click the link
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Default Re: How to improve HP

The normal bolt-ons such as intake,header,exhaust will net you some gains, but you can always boost the d-series or go built D
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Originally Posted by D16ekhatch
The normal bolt-ons such as intake,header,exhaust will net you some gains, but you can always boost the d-series or go built D
+15 HP isn't going to do much of anything for him. Boost or Swap.
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Originally Posted by D16ekhatch
The normal bolt-ons such as intake,header,exhaust will net you some gains, but you can always boost the d-series or go built D
Not worth the money. If all legit parts that's an easy $900. Almost a grand for maybe 15 HP. And that's 15HP on a tiny engine.

If I could go back and tell the younger me "don't waste your damn money on bolt-on parts" I'd have so much more money in my pocket.
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get it chipped and tuned
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You have two options

Swap to a bigger engine.
Boost your current engine.



Those are your ONLY options.
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nope first option should be a chip specially after you added intake and soon adding exhaust now you are making your car lean. you need a tune just bolting up bolt-ons will decrease your power. and no stock ecu's don't compensate.

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Originally Posted by ReaperMan
nope first option should be a chip specially after you added intake and soon adding exhaust now you are making your car lean. you need a tune just bolting up bolt-ons will decrease your power. and now stock ecu's don't compensate.
great way to spend over $1000 and have nothing to show for it
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great way to spend over $1000 and have nothing to show for it
i don't know if you are making fun of my recommendation or if you are making fun of the bolt-ons losing power
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i'm making fun of you
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Originally Posted by doood
i'm making fun of you
Basically this. There is absolutely zero reason to get a professional tune for basic bolt-ons. If you want to get the hardware and learn how to do it yourself, go for it, but between the necessary hardware and the professional time, you would be paying a bare minimum of $600 for maybe 10-15whp over stock. That's a comical waste of money. For the money you would spend on a professional tune, you could pay for professional driving lessons and go faster than your tune would make you.

If you want more power, either swap in a B18 variant, or boost your D. It's that simple.
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Originally Posted by jbpnoman
Basically this. There is absolutely zero reason to get a professional tune for basic bolt-ons. If you want to get the hardware and learn how to do it yourself, go for it, but between the necessary hardware and the professional time, you would be paying a bare minimum of $600 for maybe 10-15whp over stock. That's a comical waste of money. For the money you would spend on a professional tune, you could pay for professional driving lessons and go faster than your tune would make you.

If you want more power, either swap in a B18 variant, or boost your D. It's that simple.
so you are telling me that making the car lean is safe? and not just that you are telling me that the stock ecu does compensate for the extra air coming in and out? mmmm i guess dyno's lie when they show that bolt-ons you loose power without a tune, i would rather have my car running at correct afr then risking my engine, and a basic chip and tune will not cost over $600 hahahaha i guess you guys are getting ripped off by your tuners
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First off, a basemap is not a tune. Second off, any professional tuner will charge you $500+ for their time, their expertise, and their hardware. That's not counting the hardware you'll need to buy for your car. You can't reference a dyno sheet and then not post anything - we aren't going to take anyone's word for it, especially yours, and especially when multiple dynos have been shown, without a tune, to gain minimal (2-5) whp with bolt-ons. On top of that, you don't seem to understand how engines work. Here's a catch phrase you should remember: Leaner is meaner. Lean your engine out, and (to an extent) you will make more power, while putting more stress on your engine. Basic bolt-ons are not going to lean out an engine to the point of detonation, or to the point of necessary heat build-up to crack pistons.

You've obviously never actually tuned a car before, and probably don't understand half of what I just said.

OP, a B18B1 (LS) swap can be had for under $1000, and will net ~142BHP. A B18C1 (GSR) swap can be had for around a grand, and will net ~170BHP. A B18C5 (ITR) swap can be had for $1500, and will net ~195BHP. You can safely and effectively boost a D16Yx for $1500-$2000, if you're careful shopping around and piece together your own kit, and reliably get ~200-210WHP on stock internals. Please ignore the stupid that keeps popping up in this thread, figure out what your goals and budget are, and pick from the above list.
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LMAO!!!!
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Besides the point that his car is OBD2, he can't "chip"his ECU. He'll at least need a new ECU to start with.
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Besides the point that his car is OBD2, he can't "chip"his ECU. He'll at least need a new ECU to start with.
If you've seen some of the dumb stuff that guy posts, you would know why he isn't worth arguing with.
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Originally Posted by ReaperMan
get it chipped and tuned
As was said, how do you chip and tune OBD2? Clearly you have no clue what you're talking about.

Throw on an intake and exhaust if you want to try and improve throttle response and mileage, but don't delude yourself into thinking your car is more powerful simply because it sounds like it. When you stage up next to another Civic at a light and it actually pulls ahead of you and your car feels like it's straining to catch up, remember everything everybody is telling you.
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i'm making fun of you
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LMAO!!!!
just go away now and people might actually forget who you are
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just go away now and people might actually forget who you are
I figured it was Hamza!

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