H22 or B18C ITR
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H22 or B18C ITR
I have a 94 honda civic EX I want to put either a H22 or a B18 type r motor in Im not sure which one to go for some ppl say h22 has more power some ppl say its also more heavier and il have problems with my front suspension i plan on putting turbo and upgrades could someone give me advice
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id go with itr, specially if ur gonna boost. h22 is heavier and u will prob need custom axels so they dont break. the tranny sux on h22. i knoe 200 hp sounds nice from the h22 but itr will be able to handle moor boost
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Re: H22 or B18C ITR (stivic)
How about a fully built GSR for turbo. I'll throw in the gator axles. Asking $4000.
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Re: H22 or B18C ITR (EkDave)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EkDave »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about a fully built GSR for turbo. I'll throw in the gator axles. Asking $4000.
Darton Sleeves
CP Pistons
Cunningham Rods
9:1 Compression and a whole lot of whoop ***.
<300 miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>
All reciepts included. (Cost of the motor swap and full detailed invoice of the build up.) Work is done by Darren at R&D Dyno in Gardena, CA. Same person that build the AEM RWD 9 second Civic.
Darton Sleeves
CP Pistons
Cunningham Rods
9:1 Compression and a whole lot of whoop ***.
<300 miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>
All reciepts included. (Cost of the motor swap and full detailed invoice of the build up.) Work is done by Darren at R&D Dyno in Gardena, CA. Same person that build the AEM RWD 9 second Civic.
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If your gonna boost dont go with a ITR. The compression ratio is really high so the engine would be more likely to blow under boost unless your gonna do a lot of internals. So unless your gonna do a lot of engine mods you might wanna go with a lower compression B series, like a LS engine.
What others have said about the h22 is true, its a powerful engine but its a lot more complicated especially since there is a lot less info out there about h22 swaps.
No matter what you decide good luck.
What others have said about the h22 is true, its a powerful engine but its a lot more complicated especially since there is a lot less info out there about h22 swaps.
No matter what you decide good luck.
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Re: H22 or B18C ITR (EkDave)
i thought about a GSR but my friend has one of those and I have a D16Z right now I beat him at the track I dunno that other guy said the type r has too much compression for a higher boost i want to try to reach the 800 hp range when im all said and done
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Re: H22 or B18C ITR (stivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought about a GSR but my friend has one of those and I have a D16Z right now I beat him at the track I dunno that other guy said the type r has too much compression for a higher boost i want to try to reach the 800 hp range when im all said and done </TD></TR></TABLE>
not to be a dick but for what reaon do you need 800hp, are you dragging, auto-x'ing, or what 800hp is shitty for auto-x you'd never spool that monster turbo, and when you did it would spin you out, and it would be shitty for drag there would be no traction through all the gears but what do i know, nothing. Look at the people with 400hp civics they have a **** load of suspension work done to get a little more traction cause they dont have any even with 400. i think you need to reconsider your goals to what your going to be racing, i just think that is kinda rediculous, but hey its your car do what you want, and i say go with the gsr
not to be a dick but for what reaon do you need 800hp, are you dragging, auto-x'ing, or what 800hp is shitty for auto-x you'd never spool that monster turbo, and when you did it would spin you out, and it would be shitty for drag there would be no traction through all the gears but what do i know, nothing. Look at the people with 400hp civics they have a **** load of suspension work done to get a little more traction cause they dont have any even with 400. i think you need to reconsider your goals to what your going to be racing, i just think that is kinda rediculous, but hey its your car do what you want, and i say go with the gsr
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H22 isn't as heavy as most people think. 65 more lbs than a B16. Also it sits farther back and since you have a coupe, it would be that bad. I'm sure it would also be nice not being at 4k rpm at 80 mph like my B18c1.
-I say go for H22
-I say go for H22
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Re: H22 or B18C ITR (slowEKsedan)
nah im prolly jus lookin to run about 15 psi with turbo a stock h22 can handle 13 i heard im not sure how the type r handles turbo since the compression is high so im still not sure yet
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i personally am a NA fanatic. so i would definately just tell you to go ITR and leave as-is. mild cams, good intake/exhaust set-up, tuning=good daily driver for years.
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Re: H22 or B18C ITR (stivic)
wow id love to see where a stock h22 can handle 13 psi.... maybe once at the track and the guy was lucky he didnt blow his motor...
id say go all motor with the h22... with the stock motor and a little bit of gutted interior you should be at at least 13.0
id say go all motor with the h22... with the stock motor and a little bit of gutted interior you should be at at least 13.0
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Re: H22 or B18C ITR (chronodyne28)
you think a k20a would b better to boost than a b18 itr or the h22 i think the problem with the h22 would b suspension costs
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Re: H22 or B18C ITR (stivic)
IMO I think all three of those motors are great all motor platforms. Don't get me wrong though, boost is a hell of a lot of fun! And yea the h22 will definately call for suspension attention.
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Re: H22 or B18C ITR (chronodyne28)
what sorta compression does the h22 run? it cant be anywhere near the 11:1 that the ITR has, so some boost should be do able with it. The only other problem with the H22 no matter the compression is if you REALLY want 800hp its gonna be a pain to find parts that wont blow for the h22, just not that much work as been done with em, or atleast thats my impression.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you think a k20a would b better to boost than a b18 itr or the h22 i think the problem with the h22 would b suspension costs </TD></TR></TABLE>
This is awesome..
You have the money to build a 800 hp motor, but you are worried about suspesion cost which would be minimal at best when compared to the money you would (in reality) spend to meet your goals..
This thread is total bs. You should have quit while you were ahead.
This is awesome..
You have the money to build a 800 hp motor, but you are worried about suspesion cost which would be minimal at best when compared to the money you would (in reality) spend to meet your goals..
This thread is total bs. You should have quit while you were ahead.
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