wizzards581

that is advance right??? how come its all the way and my timing is not straight?? is almost there but cant go any close to the orange line on the crank.. what else can i adjust to fix the timing straight??

mine is a jdm b18c.

_BEN_

Make sure your belt has not slipped.

Put your crank at tdc, remove your valve cover and see if your cam gear marks are lined up.

AMG

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Put your crank at tdc, remove your valve cover and see if your cam gear marks are lined up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Yep....I have the same motor and also had problems with mine.....later found out the coil went bad.

Do you have a timing gun?

wizzards581

well.. yes i have timing gun... and its tdc...

but knock sensor light is on.. that wont affect will it?

_BEN_

want the gsr service manual? It can answer all of your questions.
I just pm'ed you the link. Its a 80mb download.

ABK

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Actually I think that's your problem. I never had to deal with knock sensors on civics, but on my maxima if the knock sensor will go bad it will make the car run rich, and pull the timing like crazy to avoid detonation. It will make the gas milage go down really bad and the car will be slow as ****. So I think you should change you KS, but first check if it's plugged in.

2lua

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but knock sensor light is on.. that wont affect will it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

when you set timing, first be sure that all timing marks are line up properly, the start the car and jump the service check connector (the plug for checking tdc), and then check your timing.

wizzards581

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Actually I think that's your problem. I never had to deal with knock sensors on civics, but on my maxima if the knock sensor will go bad it will make the car run rich, and pull the timing like crazy to avoid detonation. It will make the gas milage go down really bad and the car will be slow as ****. So I think you should change you KS, but first check if it's plugged in.</TD></TR></TABLE>

knock is plugged. i try to unplugg and plug it but too narrow to get my hands. i think i can after pulling the oil filter out. but yea its on and its plug. the CEL sometimes goes away and sometimes stay on.

ABK

Try to get KS somewhere and replace it or something.

owen_the_soyboy

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when you set timing, first be sure that all timing marks are line up properly, the start the car and jump the service check connector (the plug for checking cel), and then check your timing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

91lsvtecrx

there are two marks on the crank pulley one is white and the other one is orange you want to line it up with the white one on the crank pulley and check the cam gears to see that they are lined up. make sure the (up) mark on the cam gears is pointing up and the line on the cam gears is line up with each other.

wizzards581

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91lsvtecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are two marks on the crank pulley one is white and the other one is orange you want to line it up with the white one on the crank pulley and check the cam gears to see that they are lined up. make sure the (up) mark on the cam gears is pointing up and the line on the cam gears is line up with each other.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep.. did this a long time ago... both line meet in middle also...

is the service connector the plug for CEL code check?

sirb18a

what kind of timing belt and water pump are you using???

wizzards581

i never changed it.. its a jdm motor though. but i have acura timing belt and water pump ready to replace after running the track...

will water pump and timing belt affect?

Eluzion

Mine is kinda like that too... Almost all the way to the right but my timing is right at factory. I did jump the service connectors too. This is on a USDM GSR motor.

But yeah, make sure you jump the service connector. It is the same plug you check for codes. I adjusted my timing w/o jumping it (didn't know you had to) then adjusted it with it jumped (after I found out)... and it was off quite a bit. Also make sure the engine is warmed up (should be idling around 700-800 rpms I think? Not sure if low or high idles will affect it)...

95turbohatch

wow that is advanced hardcore..

Formula 1

i had the same problem

i just had to play with the idle screw, and dizzy after i got the timing belt on right. It was off 2 cogs. extreme power difference

hondaeg8

i have an extra KS if you want to buy it.

Eluzion

Fix your problem yet?

I'm curious why mine is so far to the right yet the timing gun shows the timing is good.

EG2 SiR

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I may be wrong, but mabye your ECU is retarding the ignition timing thinking that their is knock or ping???

wizzards581

ill try to do everything i can this weekend.. ill let u guys know.. i mite be running the track for the first time on wednesday at sac raceway...

EG6 SiR

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But yeah, make sure you jump the service connector. It is the same plug you check for codes. I adjusted my timing w/o jumping it (didn't know you had to) then adjusted it with it jumped (after I found out)... and it was off quite a bit. Also make sure the engine is warmed up (should be idling around 700-800 rpms I think? Not sure if low or high idles will affect it)...</TD></TR></TABLE>

you need to jump the service connectors to adjust the igniton timing because if you dont your ECU will put it back to were it was originally set at. So adjust it with the service connectors jumped and you should be okay.

stockegsix

this is stock timing 16TDC, 95 usdm gsr motor


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wizzards581

ok... hope its the same by sunday... but...

what about jdm? there should be no difference.. but again. code 23 is stil on.

stockegsix

how did you wire up your knock sensor?