lazy bum shaughn

I was wondering what modifications, if any, would I hve to do to make this work. My idea is to get a full B16 swap, then get a GSR block.

Why you ask?

Well first off B16 already has a closer geared tranny, and why get bother spending more money on a GSR motor when I'm going to do headwork anyway? Hope that didn't confuse anyone.

What timing belt and oil/water pump will I have to use?

Thanks, much .

vtecvoodoo

How about a b20 block?

lazy bum shaughn

Thanks for the comment. I did consider it but I rather keep it as OEM as possible, and a non VTEC block on a VTEC head doesnt seem like a good idea to me because I always hear about sleeves cracking and the block isn't meant to rev as high yadda yadda.

ArinX

timing belt ud have to use a gsr/type r becasue the b16 one would be too short.

water pump oil pump either gsr or itr will work also.

everything else should bolt right up

zc911

just re,ber you get a pretty low comrpession ratio when you do that becuase of the GSRs pistons

Toda Party

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poor man's type-r motor

SIReg9

Im building 1 right now... Gsr block, Ctr pistons, And a B16 head. Hope to finish up soon

Dancing is Forbidden

Isnt there a lot of people that put the B16a head on the B18C block? Sounds like a good idea to me. Should create some nice numbers. Give it a shot.

Ya@inlinePRO

sleeves crack on the b20 cause they suck. don't you mean b16 head on a gs-r block?


[Modified by kwik2nec, 9:22 PM 2/13/2003]

lazy bum shaughn

Yea, after I made the post I was like wait a minute..ahh well you people know what i mean lol.

Anyway thanks for the responces. I plan on using the B16 pistons for a higher compression ratio(PR3 right?). Does the GSR block have extra sensors hanging out?

I can use my stock B16 ECU with no problems right? Or would I run lean(1.8 displacement)?

Thanks again.

9200RPM

No you want Civic Type R pistons (B16b) not B16a

phantoman

i have the same set up.

gsr block, ctr piston
itr head with valve train, gsr cams.
with prelude injectors. 190 cc
everything else is stock.
CR: is 11.8:1
hspwer with gsr cams is 165 hp and 119 tq.
with vafc vtec is at 5300 rpm.

b16 head will yeild a lower compression it is aprox .3 less than the gsr head.
if you are going all motor the gsr head will be better for high compression.

i am in process of buying some ctr cams, i'll dyno it and let you guys konw what to expect with this set up.




[Modified by phantoman, 12:10 PM 2/14/2003]

lazy bum shaughn

I know that but I'm poor and the stock SI pistons will yield higher compression than GSR ones.

Thanks though.

Doctor CorteZ

wrong specs on the injectors dude.

270cc

blackANESE

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Any vtec oil pump/water pump will work.

lazy bum shaughn

Even H22?

Doctor CorteZ

why would you even think that would work ?

here let me spell it out for you - any B series VTEC pump will work...

redline201

can you mill the b16 head to make up for the lost comprssion

lazy bum shaughn

First off I was kidding, I guess I forgot the smiley.

Second if H22 injectors will work, hmm maybe other H22 parts will?

couter.net

He was talking about injectors
H22a injectors work

phantoman

dr. cortez,

ur right, i did right the wrong spec.
but i think u got it wrong too,
type r's are 270
and H22 are 290.
if i am not mistakened.
thansk for the correction tho.!

sshaikh01

i'm very sorry for a noob queston.

But whats the differnce in compression, is lower compression good or is higher compression good.

I plan on going all motor, but i don't want to go crazy on the engine too.

phantoman

higher compression is better for allmotor.
i would say a safe compression on pump gas, octan 91 or 93
would be anywhere from stock - 11.8
closer to 12.1 cr is risky.
this is all my opinion. i think other feel that this may be too high or not high enough

SpoolinSol

Type R injectors are 240cc
Prelude injectors are 280cc

acydphryck

b20 sleeves suck ***...b20 with sleeves...now that's a different story...