blackeg

first off here is the link to the other thread i had goin
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=749582
ok- went back to the car tonight. checked for spark and each cylinder sparks. fuel pump comes on(damn walbros are loud ) and fuel is getting to the cylinders cause its all over the plugs and smells too. a few people suggest that it was my ignitor/coil in the dizzy. my question is would it still spark if these were bad??? my 3 possiblities for why my car aint working was main relay,ignitor,coil- and now it almost seems to me that they are all working properly im tryin to find someone i know wit the same motor so i can borrow dizzy's, but its not working so well. please help me its been almost a month since this **** went down

esoterEK..

i have the same problem but no spark bought a new distributor well see if that's thep problem.

blackeg

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lemme know what happens man

JDMlyfestyle

same thing happened to me and it was just a ground that had vibrated out of its place. put the ground back on and it fired right up.

eg ferio

i was leaning towards your ignitor but now i dont know

FrostySol

I'm assuming you've tried starting off of another battery? Sometimes if only one cell in the battery goes bad the car won't start (even off of a jump) but the electronics will work. If you have checked that check your grounds and fuses both under the hood and under the dash...

blackeg

hmmmm. actually i havent tried another battery. what ive been doing i hooking the jumper cables right up to my mazda and doing it that way. ill give that a try today

kKdARIAN

I had that very problem too.. i changed everything. Distrbutor, wires, cap, plugs fuel filter..

turns out, my valve lashings were incorrect. My valve lashings were too tight, ...

primeredbeast

my car had the same thing i replaced my ingition module and problem was fixed. runs like a champ

S@nt0s

sure timing is set? if its too far off she miight not start? not too sure!

blackeg

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pretty sure cam timing is set, but not sure about ignition timing- maybe the rotor slipped. im def gonna check that out later-

Evs-One

the rotor won't "slip".

And even if the ignitor is bad, it will still spark...just very weak.

Look for a blue spark, you don't want a orange/red spark, as that is weak.

Distributor location won't effect the car from running if the cam timing is correct.

esoterEK..

Yep change the whole distributor today WORK FINE just need to time it

EL Vap133

Something similar happened to a friend of mine, turned out that the rotor inside the dizzy had fallen off, put it back on and the car ran like a champ!

mattssi

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It was more than likely you ignitor that went out, and those are really easy to fix, so don't discard your dizzy quite yet!

blackeg

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It was more than likely you ignitor that went out, and those are really easy to fix, so don't discard your dizzy quite yet! </TD></TR></TABLE>
i called my local honda dealer yesterday just checkin to see how much parts were- and they told me 109+tax for just the ignitor . good think majestic has them on the website for 30 dollars cheaper. Emerika- i think the spark might have been orangish. i was in the car and i had a friend check it, but i think it might been orange(not hot enough?). so ill look for that today.

92B20GSR

how can you fix the ignitor?/???

blackeg

went back today for a little. tried new plugs/wires- no luck. checked it for spark again, and it seems to be very weak, slightly sparratic and orangeish almost yellow. would a 'weak spark' be caused by the ignitor or the ignition coil??

esoterEK..

i am very aware of this. i just prefer a new distributor since the one that came with the motor is about 10 year old

FrostySol

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replace it... that's about all


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It could be one of those, I suppose... test them. If it's not one of those then check all your grounds... it sounds like you have a bad connection somewhere since you are getting some spark

blackeg

tried it today with a brand new ignitor and ignition coil- still dont start. i was pretty sure this was the problem, so now im like about to give up and not touch the thing till springtime...........

blackeg

ok i definately need opinions now....bump for my p.o.s

1slammedhatch

i have had this problem twice. the first time it would just crank over, had spark but wouldnt start. replaced the distributor. ok now the second time same distributor, the car still wouldn't turn over but would make quiet back fires. the problem ended up being that the rotor inside came lose and the screw holding it loosened up and fell off so check all that. in your case i would just replace distributor. cost me $170 for a new one at auto zone

thenick

you try a new distributor cap? if it has a crack it won't send all the spark

FrostySol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tried it today with a brand new ignitor and ignition coil- still dont start. i was pretty sure this was the problem, so now im like about to give up and not touch the thing till springtime...........</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn, you bought a new ICM and coil? I'd be pretty pissed if my car didn't start after buying those. Should've run the tests on them to make sure they were bad before buying new ones... oh well, yeah, check your cap and rotor and grounds and fuses if you haven't already