siopau

is a f20b engine is it possible to put it in a 98 HB civic without modin the engine bay?! or there going to be some mods in the engine inorder for the engine to fit.

thanks in advance.

Tswjfwm

All need is engine mounts and linkage->cable. Same as h and f swaps I assume.

Townson

never really looked into this swap, but i think all you'll need is new mounts as far as the engine bay is concerned. for the rest i have no idea.

dontknow22

I am a big fan of unusual swaps and this is very practical swap. All you will need is the shifting cables, mounts, wiring, axles, ECU, and some time. This swap will be exactly the same as doing and H series swap..

Libertariat

It's much easier with an H2b kit. You can use b-series mounts, a better performing b-series transmission.

The h2b kit is well worth it. Saves you from hacking up your floorboard to run shifter cables. The performance gains are unreal.

apexi_rsx

+1 your going to want to run H2B adapter plate so u can run integra spindles and stuff and make this swap way less of a headache and the b series trannys have a better variety to choose from.

dontknow22

+1 on the H2b kit as well but it is possible either way...

dem0nk1d

f20 would swap in with store bought mounts, and a little wiring. You'll need a h2b / h2d kit. You should be fine. Or if you wanna go insane you can always do the f20c the s2k motor.

Now if you want to do that.....

you'll need to do some custom stuff like mod the firewall, the transmission tunnel, and rear-end. The f20 is the s2k motor. Check this crx build, it will give you an idea what would need to be done.

http://turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?f=...d56fd3c871a9d2

Libertariat

f20b is similar to an h22. f20c is nothing like the b/h brethren and actually spins the opposite direction.

dem0nk1d

so does this mean you have to use the f20b tranny only. so then the b-series / d-series trannys will not work then. but the h22 f22 etc spin the same direction as it brothers... the d/b... so why did they make it spin backwards.

Libertariat

F20B is for all intents and purposes, an h22. an h22 transmission is the same transmission used on the f20b. The engine was in their Euro accord and a production engine only due to a racing requirement from some rally competition that the engine not exceed 2.0L.

The engine is literally a de-stroked h22.

it's got higher compression and revs a tad higher so it makes similar power in stock form.

the f20c shares almost no similarities with h22/F20b engines. The k20 and the f20c both spin opposite the d/b/h/f20b engine line ups.

apexi_rsx

f20c is an s2000 motor and u could only use a s2000 transmission there's no way around it. they say the s2000 rear is weak and most use a silvia rear in place of it. lil too much work unless u got the dough to do it. this thread is getting off track lol.... back to the f22 single cam discussion.....

Libertariat

f22 single cam is also ultimately an h22. The h2b kits work for them as well.

The OP also asked about the f20b, which is a DOHV vtec. Almost identical to the h22

siopau

thanks for all the comments guys.

but do i really need a h2b kit? what if i jus get the engine mounts from the car it self? would that work too? cause i think im gettin the engine complete lsd tranny ecu motor mounts etc. so would that work? cause i know most of you sugested h2b kit but if im gettin the engine mounts from the car it self wouldnt that be the same?! sorry im new this stuff.... .. lmk please and thanks.

apexi_rsx

if u do they will probably need to be welded in as they will not be located at the same spot as the motor that was in it (B or D which have the same mounts and locations) the h2b kit will allow u to have a better tranny as the h22 and f22 transmissions are junk. the b series transmissions are stronger and as i said before have a variety of different gearing to choose from . also b series transmissions have a bigger market of parts to beef up the transmission. i believe u would need custom made axles to run a h22 or f22 transmission. with the h2b kit u could just use b series stock axles and integra spindles.

siopau

ohhtru!!! damn aii i guess this swap is not happenin to me anytime soon. h2b ki is so expensive >.< but thank for your help ^^ really appreciate it.

siopau

@apexi_rsx

sorry jus want to clear things up. so if i use a h2b kit i dont have to buy the transmission, i can jus use my stock bseries tranny. so all i need for this swap to happen if i have a h2b kit is a f20b engine am i right? correct me if im wrong.

and ihave a/c in my 98 civic if i swap the f20b in my car will my a/c still be available?

apexi_rsx

yes all u would need is the h2b adapter kit... as for the a/c i have no idea most people with this swap probably dont run a/c as that motor is a monster with barely any room. i think they make relocating kits to run this stuff though... maybe someone else can chime in on that question.

Libertariat

The h2b kit is not "expensive"

It's worth every penny. Wait a few months if you can't afford it. It is every bit worth it. Any of the drag racers who run h2b will tell you nothing did more for their trap times and 60' than an h2b kit when converting from a regular h22 swap.

It basically makes the h2b almost bolt in. Banging the frame rail and using a different crank pulley.

And if you've already got a bswap just use your current engine mounts and transmission. The QSD kit was designed with b-series swaps in mind. It's designed to be an upgrade for n/a b-series builds.

air conditioning is possible, just tricky.

siopau

they are pretty expensive hehe specially for a workin student but neways. do really need a h2b kit?

cause right nowi have a d15 in my car. i jus want to ask what i need (besides the h2b kit) to this swap done. cause im gettin the complete engine with tranny for 1800 and i think im gettin the engine mounts also. like do i need new axles? let me know please and thanks.

i want this swap done before my summer ends and back to my reguar life :'(

Fmorales

What axle i can use for the swap f20b in a 1998 honda civic coupe

JRCivic1

How about EKH axles from HASport.