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Old 07-11-2009, 01:49 PM
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Ok well last night my car was broken into its a 00 si.. they got in popped the hood and cut the siren wire.. my igintion is busted and my new viper alarm got stolen.. they hacked into the fuel pump and ran wires to the ignition.. i wired all the fuel pump wires back up.. and got the igition to where i can turn the dash lights and radio on but the car wont start.. when i turn the key the radio shuts off but the dash lights stay on and the car wont start or even crank.. i checkd all the fuses none seem to be blown.. what else could i check?? i hate orlando cant wait to get out of this **** hole.. sry for the long post any help would be greatly apperciated..
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Good thing they didnt get the car.
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Does your check engine light stay on? did they try to go after your computer at all? it's tough to diagnose electrical issues based on second-hand information, especially after somebody else hacked your sh** up.
Your radio may just require an anti-theft code, unless you are saying that it loses power altogether, in which case I have no clue.
Best of luck and sorry to hear about your troubles
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check the wires that go to ur clutch pedal sensor
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Originally Posted by SinsEvil666
check the wires that go to ur clutch pedal sensor
yea i thought the same i checked it earlier.. there is wires comin from the pedal and there wires that are spliced into them from the alarm.. i undid the wires and but still couldnt get it to turn over.. is that what i should do or try somin else?
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Originally Posted by 40mpg_dx00
Does your check engine light stay on? did they try to go after your computer at all? it's tough to diagnose electrical issues based on second-hand information, especially after somebody else hacked your sh** up.
Your radio may just require an anti-theft code, unless you are saying that it loses power altogether, in which case I have no clue.
Best of luck and sorry to hear about your troubles
yea sry its kinda hard to explain.. but i put the code in the radio and it comes on and works when i turn the key but when i try to start it the radio turns off it might suppose to do that idk.. it dosent loss power totaly because i dont have to put the code back in everytime.. i think its somin to do with the clutch pedal sensor when the alarm was in there cause wires are still splied in the sensor but i dont no what to do.. hope that helps

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Good thing they didnt get the car.
yea thanks thats wat i keep tellin my self
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check the ground and to power going to the starter. if that is good then pull the starter and get it tested or just put jumper cables on it and it should come on pop out ans spin. if it doesnt then theres your problem.

check all your ground wires to everything.
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Since they grabbed your alarm, I would backtrack to every wire that was cut, modified, or replaced in any fashion for the install of the alarm. its possible there are some wires exposed or not connected properly, or are causing shorts on the system
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The radio loses power to reduce electrical draw because the starter draws a lot. That's normal function.

Odds are the starter is fine. This sounds more like a wiring issue. the alarm may have been equiped with a lockout feature which may be the reason the car wasn't stolen. I'm just guessing but it sounds logical in my head.
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damn thieves. trying to take another em1 out the road.
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Originally Posted by mattliston
Since they grabbed your alarm, I would backtrack to every wire that was cut, modified, or replaced in any fashion for the install of the alarm. its possible there are some wires exposed or not connected properly, or are causing shorts on the system
yea thats wat i did.. theres alot of wires loose where they stole the brain box where all the wires connect to my alarm i just dont no what to do with them
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try turning your alarm on then off. if you already havent did that. or jus take out your alarm system completely.

did you have a hood pin?
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Originally Posted by c5stunna
try turning your alarm on then off. if you already havent did that. or jus take out your alarm system completely.

did you have a hood pin?
his alarm got stolen.........
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yea thats wat i did.. theres alot of wires loose where they stole the brain box where all the wires connect to my alarm i just dont no what to do with them
might be expensive or time consuming, but have you thought of just replacing the whole harness? find someone parting out a car, and buy the under dash harness for 100 or less


it might be free to trace and fix the issue, but it might be worthwhile to just start fresh with a replacement harness

i guess its a money vs effort lol
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idk wat im goin to do i have fullcoverage.. iam thinkn about just going to pay the dedcutable and get a new alarm and ignition switch i guess..
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Originally Posted by nolakid504
check the ground and to power going to the starter. if that is good then pull the starter and get it tested or just put jumper cables on it and it should come on pop out ans spin. if it doesnt then theres your problem.

check all your ground wires to everything.


yeah this is a good point usually viper alarms have starter kill. so they would disconect the ground on the starter and run it direct to the battery to start it...try push starting it
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Dude alot of higher end alarms when they are installed have the ecu run through them so that if the alarm loses power then the car won't start... It's a nifty lil safety precausion. It's a possability that your's is one of those alarms.
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IS the ignition switch harness where it should be? It's possible they unscrewed it to try and start it.

Should be 2 little gold screws holding it in, if it's not in the proper position, the car won't start.

If you need a new Ignition switch harness, I've got an OEM Honda one I'll ship to you for $40.It's brand new and cheaper than Autozone, Advance,eBay etc...and it's OEM.
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jumped the starter and the car started right up.. so iam goin to replace the igntion 2marrow and i should b good..
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Originally Posted by 99_hb_on_air
IS the ignition switch harness where it should be? It's possible they unscrewed it to try and start it.

Should be 2 little gold screws holding it in, if it's not in the proper position, the car won't start.

If you need a new Ignition switch harness, I've got an OEM Honda one I'll ship to you for $40.It's brand new and cheaper than Autozone, Advance,eBay etc...and it's OEM.
i would but i need an ignition asap honda has one in stock for 120
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I'd take a week off work and stake out my car, ha ha, wait until they come back and show them how soft your tire iron is. Anyway, it seems that what I was going to say was said about the ignition but its cool you have you car.
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Originally Posted by jdmasfuk
i would but i need an ignition asap honda has one in stock for 120
Well, there you go.

That seems like quite a bit though. I had to do the same thing recently to my 99 Civic. I paid a lot less than that, over half actually.

But, good luck with it!
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Originally Posted by jdmasfuk
i would but i need an ignition asap honda has one in stock for 120
is there any way you can wire it back up to work? or is the ignition assemmbly damaged beyond repair? its only a few wires, maybe now would be a good time to get a push start system lol
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