diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits
08-21-2005, 07:10 PM
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diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits
well, i dont want to piece together a turbo kit, so im buying greddy, and i know that d series turbo kits are all almost universal, so i was wondering why the 92-95 kits were 1400, when 96-00 ex kits were 1850, and can i still use the blue box from 92-95 on my d16y7.....1996, thanks
08-22-2005, 07:18 AM
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (young noob)
The blue box from the 92-95 won't work with the 96-00 cars.
The fuel may be pretty close, but the ignition maps are way different.
If you're going to run your own CPU Controller (Uber/Crome/Hondata/AEM) I'd get the 92-95 kit, sell the blue box, get a P28, socket it, and run the Rom Controller of my choice.
The fuel may be pretty close, but the ignition maps are way different.
If you're going to run your own CPU Controller (Uber/Crome/Hondata/AEM) I'd get the 92-95 kit, sell the blue box, get a P28, socket it, and run the Rom Controller of my choice.
08-22-2005, 07:21 AM
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (young noob)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by young noob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, i dont want to piece together a turbo kit, so im buying greddy, and i know that d series turbo kits are all almost universal, so i was wondering why the 92-95 kits were 1400, when 96-00 ex kits were 1850, and can i still use the blue box from 92-95 on my d16y7.....1996, thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
The 96-00 kits come with more. For example 320cc (could be off but I know it is 300cc or greater) injectors come with the 96-00 kits. I know there are other little differences. I would either sell teh blue box if you get the 96-00 and go with a chipped ecu OR just buy a 92-95 kit and ECU
The 96-00 kits come with more. For example 320cc (could be off but I know it is 300cc or greater) injectors come with the 96-00 kits. I know there are other little differences. I would either sell teh blue box if you get the 96-00 and go with a chipped ecu OR just buy a 92-95 kit and ECU
08-22-2005, 10:10 AM
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (specv5150)
yea i dont want to **** with my fuel manag. so i would love to just get larger injectors and the blue box and be done with it, for like a year or so till i get greater knowledge, but will it be okay to use the ex blue box on my cx y7....thanks
08-22-2005, 10:55 AM
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (young noob)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by young noob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i dont want to **** with my fuel manag. so i would love to just get larger injectors and the blue box and be done with it, for like a year or so till i get greater knowledge, but will it be okay to use the ex blue box on my cx y7....thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nah. 92-95 ignition is way different than the 96-00 ignition. The car will stutter and run like crap for that year until you switch to a better program and get it tuned.
Nah. 92-95 ignition is way different than the 96-00 ignition. The car will stutter and run like crap for that year until you switch to a better program and get it tuned.
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (young noob)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by young noob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i dont want to **** with my fuel manag. so i would love to just get larger injectors and the blue box and be done with it, for like a year or so till i get greater knowledge, but will it be okay to use the ex blue box on my cx y7....thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you are not the well knowledge with turbo, then i wouldnt go turbo.
If you are not the well knowledge with turbo, then i wouldnt go turbo.
08-23-2005, 05:31 PM
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (nota-eg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nota-eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Nah. 92-95 ignition is way different than the 96-00 ignition. The car will stutter and run like crap for that year until you switch to a better program and get it tuned.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i mean can i use the blue box from a 96-00 ex on my cx..?? thanks
Nah. 92-95 ignition is way different than the 96-00 ignition. The car will stutter and run like crap for that year until you switch to a better program and get it tuned.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i mean can i use the blue box from a 96-00 ex on my cx..?? thanks
08-23-2005, 05:35 PM
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (young noob)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by young noob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i mean can i use the blue box from a 96-00 ex on my cx..?? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
The answer to that I honestly don't know. Don't cx's have the Y7 and the ex's have the Y8 heads? Both are 1.6Ls, correct?
i mean can i use the blue box from a 96-00 ex on my cx..?? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
The answer to that I honestly don't know. Don't cx's have the Y7 and the ex's have the Y8 heads? Both are 1.6Ls, correct?
08-23-2005, 05:41 PM
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (nota-eg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nota-eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The answer to that I honestly don't know. Don't cx's have the Y7 and the ex's have the Y8 heads? Both are 1.6Ls, correct? </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea, i have a y7 non-vtec, both are 1.6l's, but the y8 is vtec, soooo im not sure, i could just get a mini-me later on and use the blue box after that.....
The answer to that I honestly don't know. Don't cx's have the Y7 and the ex's have the Y8 heads? Both are 1.6Ls, correct? </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea, i have a y7 non-vtec, both are 1.6l's, but the y8 is vtec, soooo im not sure, i could just get a mini-me later on and use the blue box after that.....
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (sohcvtec1995)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you are not the well knowledge with turbo, then i wouldnt go turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i understand everything with turbo cars, but safm, and fm and crome and that stuff, and socket ecu's, im really blurry on all that, i have searched for it, but no1 has really like explained it to me, but after that, i would have a really good concept on fi
If you are not the well knowledge with turbo, then i wouldnt go turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i understand everything with turbo cars, but safm, and fm and crome and that stuff, and socket ecu's, im really blurry on all that, i have searched for it, but no1 has really like explained it to me, but after that, i would have a really good concept on fi
08-23-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (nota-eg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nota-eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Nah. 92-95 ignition is way different than the 96-00 ignition. The car will stutter and run like crap for that year until you switch to a better program and get it tuned.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I remember reading somewhere that the you could use the old blue boxs on newer civics, just that the wiring was different.
Nah. 92-95 ignition is way different than the 96-00 ignition. The car will stutter and run like crap for that year until you switch to a better program and get it tuned.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I remember reading somewhere that the you could use the old blue boxs on newer civics, just that the wiring was different.
08-23-2005, 06:19 PM
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (specv5150)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by specv5150 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I remember reading somewhere that the you could use the old blue boxs on newer civics, just that the wiring was different.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I admit to not knowing every thing. I just remember comparing a Y8 uberdata map to a P28 (Z6) map. The timings were way different.
I admit to not knowing every thing. I just remember comparing a Y8 uberdata map to a P28 (Z6) map. The timings were way different.
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Im running a blue box from a 92+ sohc in my 00 ex for the last 2years with no issues. Im also running a wideband o2 and everything is solid, no issues at all.
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (specv5150)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by specv5150 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what does the bluebox do anyway???</TD></TR></TABLE>
I assume its the equivilant of Hondata/Uber/Crome
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PK SPEED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im running a blue box from a 92+ sohc in my 00 ex for the last 2years with no issues. Im also running a wideband o2 and everything is solid, no issues at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think the fuel maps are very close, its the ignition that is differnt. I think the Y7/8 are advanced more than the Z6 engines.
You're probably running more retarded timing than necessary. (But if it works it works.
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I assume its the equivilant of Hondata/Uber/Crome
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PK SPEED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im running a blue box from a 92+ sohc in my 00 ex for the last 2years with no issues. Im also running a wideband o2 and everything is solid, no issues at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think the fuel maps are very close, its the ignition that is differnt. I think the Y7/8 are advanced more than the Z6 engines.
You're probably running more retarded timing than necessary. (But if it works it works.
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (nota-eg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nota-eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I admit to not knowing every thing. I just remember comparing a Y8 uberdata map to a P28 (Z6) map. The timings were way different.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmm where did they get the Y8 map from. There are only 5 maps or so on uberdata. I thought you opened the GSR map, then imported the P28 map.....then adjusted everything to your liking and save it. I am running the Z6 (P28) map on ym Y5 and the only things I adjusted were the rev limit, vtec settings and it runs good.
I admit to not knowing every thing. I just remember comparing a Y8 uberdata map to a P28 (Z6) map. The timings were way different.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmm where did they get the Y8 map from. There are only 5 maps or so on uberdata. I thought you opened the GSR map, then imported the P28 map.....then adjusted everything to your liking and save it. I am running the Z6 (P28) map on ym Y5 and the only things I adjusted were the rev limit, vtec settings and it runs good.
08-23-2005, 06:48 PM
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Re: diff. between 92-95 and 96-00 turbo kits (specv5150)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by specv5150 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm where did they get the Y8 map from. There are only 5 maps or so on uberdata. I thought you opened the GSR map, then imported the P28 map.....then adjusted everything to your liking and save it. I am running the Z6 (P28) map on ym Y5 and the only things I adjusted were the rev limit, vtec settings and it runs good.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A person had a map that went to 10psi, so I was going to use it as a basemap. Then I talked to him and he said it was for his Y7/8 (don't remember which). I then compared his P28 (adjusted timing for his Y) to the stock P28 map and it was very different.
A person had a map that went to 10psi, so I was going to use it as a basemap. Then I talked to him and he said it was for his Y7/8 (don't remember which). I then compared his P28 (adjusted timing for his Y) to the stock P28 map and it was very different.
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