Ax3l

Oh, well. N00b on this forum (And honda n00b too i guess). Excuse bad spelling where that occurs, not english speaking.

Got some questions about the d16z6 engine.

1: This engine comes in the stock Del sol EDM ESI (USDM Si?) and 95-> Civic coupe (EJ8?) EDM 1,6 VTEC (USDM Si?) right? Is all the info here correct?

2: I want a sol' or coupe and was thinking of getting the d16 option in either, due to $ situation. Planning a GSR b18 swap or something when my economical situation stabilizes a bit more. So it comes down to a 125hp SOHC vtec engine then... so I want it to kick a bit more and will do some light/mild tuning on it without spending too much on the engine. Was wondering about a set-up like this one: ZEX 59100 cam, DC headers, AEM Cai/Short ram intake, DC cat back exhaust, better plugs/wires and bigger rotors up front and rotor converion rear. So, you think this set up will give any noticeable power? What else do you think i should do, that is not too expensive/extensive/extreme? Any other good brands to use for I/H/E tuning? If you want, please make me a nice writeup on a cheap/mild d16 setup. And what gains would i look at with this setup? 130-140hp?

Thanks for all inputs. And keep your flame extinguished please.

Ax3l

An yeah, i have searched a bit too...

rice a roni

iTrader: (1)

most of the b series guys will say yeah save your money and swap it. most d series guys will say turbo that biatch...you get the idea. most guys would say that i/h/e is a waste of money blah bla blah...and i say that too. if you have a d16z6 dont buy i/h/e. waste of money. probably most horsepower gains you'll see is 20hp for all of that. either swap or turbo. you'll get the most horsepower for each dollar you spend.

jethawk

Best Bang For The Buck would be nitrous, N/A isnt really worth it on your d-series... you'll be putting alot of money for very little gains....your best bet would be to turbo it or but nitrous on it.. until you can afford your GSR swap.......... if you go the N/A route get the zex 59300 cam instead... same price as the 59100 but better gains.....g/l with what you choose.

Ax3l

Good ideas, but i do not have the funds for boost, and nitrous is rather sketchy on the legal issues over here. And i just want to do some mild NA no matter what people say, and use it as a (little quicker d16) daily driver, no trackday beast or anything... So any other ideas are still über welcome.

And, the 59300, doesn't it compromise durability without reinforcing the springs or whatever? Can i just drop it into a stock engine without any trouble? And it isn't too agressive, so gas/mileage is increased alot?

If i was using bicg bucks on it now i would have boosted it or just swapped it for a B-series DOHC VTEC of some kind... but that's not the case unfortunately (sp!).

Thanks in advance for more ideas/opinions.

Neat forum btw, learning a heap of **** just from browsing around here. C00lnezz y0!

Soccerking3000

uh you dont have to upgrade the valvesprings and retainers for the zex 59300 cam, if you want to rev past redline then i would upgrade them, but if you want to go NA, pick up a bisimoto header, 2.5" catback exhaust nice intake (ebay would work) intake manifold and so forth, but then again these things arent cheap, its an expensive hobby either way

rice a roni

iTrader: (1)

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just keep the d16 until you save up for your swap...wasting money on a motor you're not even going to keep is a big waste of money.

jethawk

*Great replacement cam for increased power and torque with efficiency. Works with stock configurations.
ZEX™ 59300 Quiktyme™ Camshafts for DZ16Z6 Honda engines offer proven Chassis Dyno power increases of 14 horsepower for stock configurations, with more on tap for modified applications. *

From The Zex Website

Ax3l

True, true...

But i'm keeping the d16 for some time and want a quicker car... i know it's a waste but i will use it for quite a while before getting a swap or whatever.

And any tuning for non-trackday cars are a waste of money, or?

blackeg

if you are putting a cam into you car, then you would really need to have i/h/e to maximize cam gains. i can say from personal experience that i/h/e on a z6 can become a huge waste of money. solution?- buy used ****. 400 bucks for a new header is crap, especially for the 4 or 5 true hp you will gain, so buy like a used dc one or something for 100 or 150(basically like 1/2 the retail price or cheaper). if you are doing the cam, id say look into getting like a skunk2 or similar intake manifold. its still pretty much a bolt on process and im sure it will help out on top end over the crappy z6 intake manifold

Ax3l

Bump!

So what about point 1 in original post? All statements correct?

And any other tips on point 2?

washpawryder

If you wanna get I/H i say go with Megan Racing. So may say it is ****, but i think not. Two of my friends are running the exhaust systems(one on a civic, the other on a 240). My friends have never complained about them at all. They have a nice exhaust note too. Megan builds good quality stuff for about half the price of brand name items.

Here is a good site for Megan products:
http://www.devltuning.com/catalog/

A fellow Honda-Tecker owns it, so help support him instead of buying off of ebay.

Uncle Ben

There's some potential in a NA z6...but your going to have to dig deeper than the basic bolt-ons to see any crazy changes IMO. I agree with blackeg, try to scoop up some used parts, and take it from there.

Ax3l

Good tips here, thanks for helping a n00b out... now i just need the car and i guess ill try to ship over some used i/h/e parts or maybe give my man a call. He's got a shop that imports tuning/styling, ill get some good prices there i guess.

And i guess i will be back when i got the funds for swap, and cry like a baby because i need help.

Uncle Ben

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Just caught that. You speak it surprisingly well for someone from Norway .

Ax3l

Thanks man.

I try, I try.

Someone confirm pt.1 in fist post please? Would help alot. And if i'm ignorant and needy, just pop me with a link where I can confirm it myself.

Ax3l

Bump...

And yeah, anyone know how my idle will be with either of the ZEX cams?
Will it be messed up? Guess the 59100 will have a smoother idle than the 59300, right?

And if yes, how can i improve it without loosing power or modify too much?

Got any other options for better cams for d16z6's?

Thanks in advance.


Modified by Ax3l at 2:53 PM 4/7/2005

Ax3l

Bump!

Check last post before this one.
-thanks.

Soccerking3000

the idle with my 59300 cam is a little higher than stock, but i have it that way, it sounds like a diesel truck though lol. If you want to gain more power with the cam, run an open downpipe and connect up a ram air intake, pretty much free stuff plus the cam and you'll notice great gains