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Old 06-16-2006, 06:28 PM
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I have a B16a swap in my 90 crx dx and it runs great when its cold, however once it gets warmed up it begins to run like crap. It boggs down when I hit the gas, and it blows out black smoke from the exhause and theres a coating of unburned fuel on the back of my car. The warmer the car gets the worse it gets. It doesnt overheat or anything it just runs real bad. I am throwing a code for knock sensor and I have checked it a few times and there seems to be nothing wrong with it... plus it wouldnt make my car run this bad. Once the car is warmed up and I stop driving, or shut the car off... then go to hit the gas or start the car it gets really bad. I can push the gas all the way to the floor and all it does is rev at a constant speed for a little while and then all of a sudden like something starts to work it revs right up. But once it goes back down in rpms the car is really hard to get the rpms back up. I was getting 6mpg then for a while I started to get like 12-15 and now I think its back down to 6mpg. I have started to put lucas injector cleaner in, because I have heard that, that is a good product. I felt a difference the first time I put it in, but the second time it started to act bad again. I have 2 ecus and they both do the same thing everything is hooked up properly so I dont know what the problem could be. Does anybody have an idea?
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Default Re: B16 throwin out black smoke only when warm???? (90jdmcrxdude)

There is a serious problem that needs diagnosed immediately. Its one thing if you get 18 mpg in a B16, which is bad...but 6 mpg?!?! First of all, its probably running so pig rich, your O2 sensors are about shot. Have you checked the MAP, TPS, IAT sensors? You need to go to a local shop and leave it to them. Otherwise, have fun getting 60 miles to a tank of gas.
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I had my O2 sensors changed, got a new map sensor, and cleaned my iacv. I dont know what else to do. It sucks, it started to get a little better when I put the injector cleaner in, then it just went downhill from there.
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Default Re: B16 throwin out black smoke only when warm???? (90jdmcrxdude)

dont know if this would help but did u check timing? ingnition timing and cam timing. maybe u skipped a tooth. check cap, rotor, plugs, wires. maybe there is a wire u are missing witch is causing all this
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I had a mechanic put the motor in and replace the timing belt and it has been checked after the car was run for a while and its all lines up perfectly as for the cap rotor and plugs and wires, I put a brand new dizzy on, and plugs and wires.
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Default Re: B16 throwin out black smoke only when warm???? (90jdmcrxdude)

ur probably running too rich. have u checked the timing urself. i know when i did the timing belt on my ls and was off i would step on the gas and i would not rev pass 2k rpms and than after a while i revved all the way up.
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I'll check it again but dont think thats it plus do you have everything to tdc
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Default Re: B16 throwin out black smoke only when warm???? (90jdmcrxdude)

if ur knock sensor is good and ur throwin the code dumbass think ur motorsknocking, seems like ur burning oil, runnin rich, i have to be there to diagnois it, when something is wrong why do kidss always go straight to a shop? i used to work at a shop and wee dont do anything different we just start replacing **** and btw u get ripped wayyyyy off for stupid ****
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Default Re: B16 throwin out black smoke only when warm???? (civicfast)

I just ordered a vtec subharness and when I get it I'll let you know how it goes.
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Default Re: B16 throwin out black smoke only when warm???? (90jdmcrxdude)

Your car is running rich due to the check engine light. Fix that first.
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Default Re: B16 throwin out black smoke only when warm???? (fast95eg8)

update?
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Default Re: B16 throwin out black smoke only when warm???? (90jdmcrxdude)

I have delt with the obd0 b16s a bit and check engine light wont make it bog down like you are saying. The tps was making it run pretty rich at one point(black smoke) so I recalibrated that and it helped. It was throwing the same code 23 knock sensor code and it still is to this day and it runs fairly good. I would check the map sensor and the vaccum lines running to the map sensor first off.
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Default Re: B16 throwin out black smoke only when warm???? (90jdmcrxdude)

Also does vtec engauge?
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Default Re: B16 throwin out black smoke only when warm???? (JeffBro)

Vtec does engage and I have checked the vacuum lines and replaced the map sensor for a known good one. I just ordered a vtec subharness so then I know all of my solders are good.
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