Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug?
02-16-2006, 05:36 PM
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Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug?
I was wondering if there was any other way to convert a 97 ek civic to 5 lug without using ITR or CTR parts? would legend or prelude parts measure up? please help!!!
02-16-2006, 05:40 PM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (powerslide360)
If u find a 5-lug hub that bolts into the civic/integra bearing thats not from a civic/integra, let me know.
02-17-2006, 08:30 PM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (Redline96LX)
Iv heared of a couple of people that got a machine shop to weld up the old holes in the rotor and drill them 5 lug.....
02-17-2006, 08:32 PM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (ekay. Jay)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekay. Jay »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Iv heared of a couple of people that got a machine shop to weld up the old holes in the rotor and drill them 5 lug.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
that can't be a good idea, I wouldn't trust welded or re-drilled rotors.
that can't be a good idea, I wouldn't trust welded or re-drilled rotors.
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (civic97dx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic97dx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
that can't be a good idea, I wouldn't trust welded or re-drilled rotors.</TD></TR></TABLE>why not? welding materials usually have a much higher tensile strength than iron or steel.
that can't be a good idea, I wouldn't trust welded or re-drilled rotors.</TD></TR></TABLE>why not? welding materials usually have a much higher tensile strength than iron or steel.
03-07-2006, 03:47 PM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (zclee.com)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zclee.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not? welding materials usually have a much higher tensile strength than iron or steel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, however, you get a lot of residual stress, stress concentrations, and a "heat affected zone". In a part that is going a lot of cyclic load and fatigue such things are very bad. This would also be assuming the perfect weld.
I would not recommend this.
Do it right or don't bother doing it.
Yes, however, you get a lot of residual stress, stress concentrations, and a "heat affected zone". In a part that is going a lot of cyclic load and fatigue such things are very bad. This would also be assuming the perfect weld.
I would not recommend this.
Do it right or don't bother doing it.
03-09-2006, 08:55 AM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (old man neri)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by old man neri »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would not recommend this.
Do it right or don't bother doing it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
For other things, I'd agree, but for rotors I don't see what the problem is. In fact, I don't see why anyone would bother welding shut the existing holes.
To my knowledge, the 4 or 5 mounting holes on a brake rotor are not really structural. What's holding the rotor to the hub is the force imparted by the lug nuts. The holes are just there to allow the lugs to pass through the rotor. So as long as the holes are in the right place for the new bolt pattern, it doesn't really matter.
While holes drilled in the swept area of a rotor are definitely a bad idea (because the high heat/friction from the pads/calipers can cause stress cracks), I don't believe this is the case for the hub part of the rotor.
I could be wrong, though.
Do it right or don't bother doing it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
For other things, I'd agree, but for rotors I don't see what the problem is. In fact, I don't see why anyone would bother welding shut the existing holes.
To my knowledge, the 4 or 5 mounting holes on a brake rotor are not really structural. What's holding the rotor to the hub is the force imparted by the lug nuts. The holes are just there to allow the lugs to pass through the rotor. So as long as the holes are in the right place for the new bolt pattern, it doesn't really matter.
While holes drilled in the swept area of a rotor are definitely a bad idea (because the high heat/friction from the pads/calipers can cause stress cracks), I don't believe this is the case for the hub part of the rotor.
I could be wrong, though.
03-09-2006, 09:47 AM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (dwolsten)
I thought he was talking about drilling holes in the hub or something. As for the rotor expletive, I don't know why you would even bother. How much is a new rotor....$20? Also for welding holes in the rotor....aren't rotors made of some pretty special or unique alloys for thier distinct purpose. Might not like welding all that much.
Either way....Just do it right. Unless you are an engineer and have the calculations to back up your plans.
Cheers.
Either way....Just do it right. Unless you are an engineer and have the calculations to back up your plans.
Cheers.
03-09-2006, 10:08 AM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (old man neri)
was any other way to convert a 97 ek civic to 5 lug without using ITR or CTR parts?
whats the part list?
whats the part list?
03-09-2006, 10:26 AM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (old man neri)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by old man neri »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought he was talking about drilling holes in the hub or something. As for the rotor expletive, I don't know why you would even bother. How much is a new rotor....$20?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree; rotors are fairly cheap, so (hypothetically speaking) I'd only drill holes for mounting if I just didn't have the new ones yet, and it was a temporary measure. Still, I just don't think it'd ever be a problem if you wanted to use the drilled ones long-term, but I wouldn't just because it seems a little half-*** to me.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also for welding holes in the rotor....aren't rotors made of some pretty special or unique alloys for thier distinct purpose. Might not like welding all that much.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, rotors are usually made of pretty simple cast iron, to my knowledge. Nothing very exotic. Sometimes they have platings on them to protect against corrosion, but this will get worn off the swept surfaces very quickly.
I agree; rotors are fairly cheap, so (hypothetically speaking) I'd only drill holes for mounting if I just didn't have the new ones yet, and it was a temporary measure. Still, I just don't think it'd ever be a problem if you wanted to use the drilled ones long-term, but I wouldn't just because it seems a little half-*** to me.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also for welding holes in the rotor....aren't rotors made of some pretty special or unique alloys for thier distinct purpose. Might not like welding all that much.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, rotors are usually made of pretty simple cast iron, to my knowledge. Nothing very exotic. Sometimes they have platings on them to protect against corrosion, but this will get worn off the swept surfaces very quickly.
03-09-2006, 10:29 AM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (BLUE EH3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLUE EH3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">was any other way to convert a 97 ek civic to 5 lug without using ITR or CTR parts?
whats the part list?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have heard that RSX parts work too... someone correct me if I am wrong... Makes since to me seeing as how it is an integra after all...
whats the part list?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have heard that RSX parts work too... someone correct me if I am wrong... Makes since to me seeing as how it is an integra after all...
03-09-2006, 10:39 AM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (dwolsten)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwolsten »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I agree; rotors are fairly cheap, so (hypothetically speaking) I'd only drill holes for mounting if I just didn't have the new ones yet, and it was a temporary measure. Still, I just don't think it'd ever be a problem if you wanted to use the drilled ones long-term, but I wouldn't just because it seems a little half-*** to me.
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It's also pretty hard, the holes would have to be faily exact. Meaning a proffesional machine shop with a milling machine. Not your hand drill in your garage. Machine shops are not cheap.
I agree; rotors are fairly cheap, so (hypothetically speaking) I'd only drill holes for mounting if I just didn't have the new ones yet, and it was a temporary measure. Still, I just don't think it'd ever be a problem if you wanted to use the drilled ones long-term, but I wouldn't just because it seems a little half-*** to me.
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It's also pretty hard, the holes would have to be faily exact. Meaning a proffesional machine shop with a milling machine. Not your hand drill in your garage. Machine shops are not cheap.
03-09-2006, 10:41 AM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (inneyeseakay)
come on guys i know some one has tried something
how about he prelude parts?
would they work?
how about he prelude parts?
would they work?
03-09-2006, 10:50 AM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (BLUE EH3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLUE EH3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im thinkin of 5lug just to rear disc brakes</TD></TR></TABLE>
AEM makes a conversion
AEM makes a conversion
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (allaboutdaz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allaboutdaz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">come on guys i know some one has tried something
how about he prelude parts?
would they work?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya, people have tried
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Search »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
» Search Results
Your search for 5 lug conversion returned 831 results.
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5 lug conversion has been done and covered to death. What exactly would you like to know?
how about he prelude parts?
would they work?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya, people have tried
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Your search for 5 lug conversion returned 831 results.
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5 lug conversion has been done and covered to death. What exactly would you like to know?
03-09-2006, 11:07 AM
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Re: Any other way to convert EK to 5 lug? (allaboutdaz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allaboutdaz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">o i c
anyone done this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, use search!
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1051196
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1051105
There's more but I will leave you up to it to search the matter.
In short though, don't do it. It's questionable whether if it's safe and it will ruin your wheel bearings, you might also see rubbing cause of the massive offset created.
Why do you want 5 lug anyways?
anyone done this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, use search!
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1051196
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1051105
There's more but I will leave you up to it to search the matter.
In short though, don't do it. It's questionable whether if it's safe and it will ruin your wheel bearings, you might also see rubbing cause of the massive offset created.
Why do you want 5 lug anyways?