DJ Nokturnal

I tried the search to find this specific comparison so no success?

I have a 96 HB with a B18C1 power plant and am looking for a CAI with the least risk of hydrolocking (living in rain/slush/snow soaked Ontario made me decide on this hehehehe). So I have decided to go with the short styles of the AEM CAI. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts or experience with either the V1 or V2 or both ? ... or any other short CAI that you would recommend...

Cheer and HT

DJ Nokturnal

any opinions guy?

mycivicstoo(s)low

I'm assuming you mean a short ram intake. Is there a V2 short ram?

DJ Nokturnal

Damn I am a retard...

That would explain why noone has replied

I mean, I was looking at the Injen RD CAI's for awhile, and they were very explicit about not getting the things wet as they sit near the underside of the engine (as per the explanation from the guy I talked to) and thus runs a high risk of hydrolocking. It was my understanding, the the AEM CAI's (V1 and V2 for the B18C) sit on top of the engine and are a lot more protected from the elements hence reducing the risk of hydrolocking. So, in my newbie way of asking, I think I used short in the wrong context when all I really mean the location of the filter is more protected as being on the upper front side of the engine.... I hope this clears that up....and I hope it is right what I described...

Maybe I should ask those questions

Do they Injen RD CAI sit under the engine?

Do the AEM V1/V2 CAI's sit on top?

Which is more recommended Injen / AEM V1 / AEM V2?

(for a b18c1)

Phew...





Modified by DJ Nokturnal at 11:46 PM 10/19/2003

mycivicstoo(s)low

A cold air intake gets air from the wheel well. You have a swap, though, so I believe the AEM CAI (Type R, at least) will sit behind your radiator or somewhere in that area. I don't think you'll have any problems with water there as long as you don't submerge the front end of the car, but if you still don't feel safe, you could get the bypass valve. As for what is best, you'll get a bunch of different answers on here, but to be honest, you're not going to get too much power from an intake alone. Sounds cool, though.

Carlo

The way I look at it, the power gains aren't good enough to make a big difference so I would rather look at it in terms of throttle response. Something with a short pipe will give you good throttle response, but then you'll get heat since the filter will be in the bay - so fabricate some kind of heatshield or just get an intake that already has one. ie Comptech, Spoon, Mugen.

DJ Nokturnal

Thanks man...

That is exactly what I was talking about... All the pics I have seen with the V1 or V2 they all sat on 'top' right behind the rad. I do not want to risk having a CAI down in the wheel well just due to the weather in my area. Can you manipulate where the CAI sits? I am so sorry I don't know this ****. I have actually never seen or played with one as I am a true newb. I am trying to just understand what my mechanic is saying to me and to basically cover my *** in the event he is bullshitting . The b18c1 that I got does not have the stock air intake so I need to get something to complete the swap so I was looking at the CAI's to do this.

Sorry about the consistent stupid questions and I hope my threads bode well for the newb searches hahahaha

Outrun

AEM with bypass valve or regular short intake. At speed, the air in the engine bay is not significantly "hotter".

00-ITR-373

You would have a tough time modifying where the V2 sits. I wouldn't recommend it. A) It's designed with a bunch of harmonics in mind, and 2) With the whole dual tube thing going on, it'd be more work than you want to do (I'm guessing).

DJ Nokturnal

ok... final question...

for my b18c1 application (in a 96 Civic HB), if I got a AEM V2 intake where will the filter placement end up?

In the wheel well, or behind the rad on the upper side of the engine?

That is the real question I need answered (I think)

btleier

It sounds to me like you should just to a short ram then you don't have to worry about it.

Targa250R

Comptech Icebox. Filter is in the engine bay, so you retain good throttle response and no risk of hydrolocking. Air inlet is behind the front bumper so you still get the benefit of cold air induction.

Inigo Montoya

I second the Icebox, it is what you are looking for.

One ather alternative would be the J's racing intake, besides the fact it looks like a slug

mycivicstoo(s)low

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJ Nokturnal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok... final question...

for my b18c1 application (in a 96 Civic HB), if I got a AEM V2 intake where will the filter placement end up?

In the wheel well, or behind the rad on the upper side of the engine?

That is the real question I need answered (I think) </TD></TR></TABLE>Wheel well. Are you buying this from your mechanic?

DJ Nokturnal

No I am buying it independantly but I ask alot of questions ... It will be installed when I complete this engine swap... I just like to know as much as I can hence all the newbie questions

Ok, so... my understanding is ... the AEM v2.. comes off the throttle body, wraps over the engine then drops to the front of the wheel well?

Damn it is hard trying to find a picture of this anywhere! I am so sorry guys...

JDMlyfestyle

I had the original AEM and the V2 and i liked the V2 more.. i felt a lil more power without the loud intake noise. But i had to be alot more careful with my V2 because it sat a tad bit lower than the V1. I goes off at at an angle over the tranny goes down next to the radiator and mounts sideways into the passanger side fenderwell. Here is a pic of it on my single cam

quik sol

lets put it like this my daily driver automatic civic wouldnt chirp with the v2 they do a little...ooo ya! 2f2f here I come! oh wait i got an intake, already met the requirement lol

mycivicstoo(s)low

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quik sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lets put it like this my daily driver automatic civic wouldnt chirp with the v2 they do a little...ooo ya! 2f2f here I come! oh wait i got an intake, already met the requirement lol</TD></TR></TABLE>huh?

DJ Nokturnal

hmmmm

So the positioning of the AEM V2 is then at a high risk of possible water problems to the engine. Is this right to assume?

Another thing, what is the real risk of hydrolocking? Is it a prevelant thing with CAI such as the Injen and the AEM v2's?

screech

I have the v1 and i hydrolocked my car i ended up with bent rods and all kinds of other ****. I assume the v2 is the same basic location and i wouldnt recomend it. the water wasnt even to the bottom of the bumper. it all worked out though insurance is paying for my gsr (hehehe).

DJ Nokturnal

Shitty deal man, but thanks for the tips...

I think i am going to get the Comptech Icebox... Just have to figure out what I have to order to make it a complete install. Anyone know what parts I have to order for it to fit onto my B18C1 throttle body? I am without the stock intake...

From my reading I think I need the Air Intake kit, then the Ice Box is a separate purchase right?

DJ Nokturnal

ok... i will let HT tell me what to get...

Comptech CAI with Icebox
or
AEM V2 with Bypass Valve

What should I do!

SkyeC

Stock GSR intake pipe and GSR airbox with K&N filter.

Sounds like you're too skiddish for a CAI.

Inigo Montoya

stick with the icebox on this one, you only get the benefit of the bypass valve on the V@ if the ENTIRE filter is covered, it doesn't work like you want it to with just a splash of water. it can still hydrolock.

You shouldn't have that problem with the icebox. what you can do is order a type r intake arm, it is larger than all of the other intake arms, and there is an icebox that will hook directly up to it (the arm will fit the throttle body, i know that much). now being that you have a gsr I am not quite sure about fitment, maybe someone else can answer that question.

Hope that helps some, you might also talk with the dealer or person you buy it from to see if they have any input on what you need in terms of extra parts, I don't believe the icebox comes with the intake arm but I may be incorrect.

JDMlyfestyle

id go with the icebox its not worth having to buy another swap.