POE

Im a d series guy. i dont know much about b series motor, but i came accross a 2000 GSR BARE intake manifold, and its got the dual stage secondary butterfly's on it.
If u had say... a b16 motor or a gsr motor with out the secondary butterfly's

wouldnt this Intake manifold be a GREAT moddification to anyone with a b series motor with a stock intake?!?!

it gives u torque at LOW END and then at 5800 (i beleive) the other valves open up so the runners are shorter the the cylender and plemun= some mad power?

POE

ttt

jdmsiR20

you contridict yourself -- do you want to know with or without the gsr manifold?

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it gives u torque at LOW END and then at 5800 (i beleive) the other valves open up so the runners are shorter the the cylender and plemun= some mad power?
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anyway, the gsr manifold is designed exactly for exactly what you said: good low end torque and a good breathing capability at high rpm's...

sort of the best of both worlds, but wont make as much power up top compared to a b16/ITR/skunk type manifold....

jlacoy82

About how much power is "mad power"????

POE

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anyway, the gsr manifold is designed exactly for exactly what you said: good low end torque and a good breathing capability at high rpm's...

sort of the best of both worlds, but wont make as much power up top compared to a b16/ITR/skunk type manifold....</TD></TR></TABLE>

IM sorry for that, i have really bad grammar, im trying though.
thanks for your input,

ALL input is great. if its not BULL ****.
what other kind of setups would be benificial for this manfiold to go on?

IM basically looking to sell it to just get a little bit of cash for it. and i thought there would be people with older gsr's who dont have this manifold or people with b16, with stock manifolds.

jdmsiR20

gsr manifold will bolt onto gsr heads, not ITR or b16's.....

they sell for usually dirt cheap

many owners opt for the single plenum design

POE

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they sell for usually dirt cheap

many owners opt for the single plenum design</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn, so i should just throw this **** away?

POE

no one with a older gsr or ls motor needs this?!?! its MINT

Brodie Bruce

you would need the GSR ecu for the secondary butterflies to be operational. The head flange will only meet up with a GSR head also.

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

It ONLY fits a GSR head (as stated above). That manifold is a compromise of performance to help the sales of a luxury sports car. It containes long runners to up normal daily driving low end torque (making people happier during a test drive). Then at a certain RMP the butterflies open to give a shorter shot to the valves for better high rpm breathing (keeping them happy during the test drive). The main problem is that it has about twice the surface area inside the runners, and probably twice the drag (if not more). This can severly limit the speed/quality of the intake air charge. Oh, and I forgot to mention the additional butterflies sitting right in the intake runner path (preventing natural air swirl that speeds the intake charge along)...