Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

99 civic has no power when key is turned

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-23-2016, 01:12 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Goobergobbler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 99 civic has no power when key is turned

I just finished my swap and when I jumped in it and turned the key to on all my gauges and radio turned on then I turned it to start and everything shut down. I turned it off and tried again and nothing happened at all. What happened?
Old 07-23-2016, 06:38 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Goobergobbler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

40a ignition fuse is good and battery has 12.3 volts.
Old 07-24-2016, 05:10 AM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
mk378's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,018
Likes: 0
Received 46 Likes on 43 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Ground wires hooked up? Connections at the battery secure?

Turn the headlights on, if they do not light take a voltmeter and start measuring for where the voltage is being lost. First measure at the battery posts to confirm the battery is not dead. Then measure from the post to the terminal. There should be zero volts. If a voltage appears between parts that should be connected, it is a bad connection. Do this all the way around the circuit both on the power and the ground side.
Old 07-24-2016, 05:52 AM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Goobergobbler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Ground wires are good and the battery terminals are tight The headlights do not turn on and the battery is charged. I put two different battery's in the car. Let me make sure I understand this. I need to trace the headlight circuit to figure out where the voltage is being lost? What do you mean from the post to the terminal?
Old 07-24-2016, 07:32 AM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Triple check your wiring job. Something with the main power distribution went wrong.

Start by checking the 80A hood fuse.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-...fuses-3079359/



Old 07-24-2016, 07:52 AM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Goobergobbler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

It's good. All the fuses under good are intAct
Old 07-24-2016, 07:56 AM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Voltage test the 80A and 40A fuses (41 and 42). See link I posted.

Do the hazard lights and horn work?

Originally Posted by Goobergobbler
Ground wires are good
How do you know? Avoid blanket statements like this unless you are able to back them up.
Old 07-24-2016, 09:55 AM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Goobergobbler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Ok so both fuses are getting 12.3v on either side of the fuses when I probed the grounds I got 12.3v where the battery ground hits the chassis and at the thermostat ground. I have a nology ground strap running from the head and the block and to the frame. When I probed where it hits the frame it slowly rises from 0v to like 3v and then jumps around between 0-3v. But that wouldn't cause the car to lose power to everything would it?
Old 07-24-2016, 10:59 AM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Originally Posted by RonJ
Do the hazard lights and horn work?
Not sure why you did not address this^.

Also check the G1 battery and G3 transmission grounds.
Old 07-25-2016, 06:20 AM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Goobergobbler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

I thought I answered you. No the horn nor the hazard lights work. Headlights and blinkers do not work. None of the interior lighting is working as far as the over head lights and any dash lighting including the radio. This is true with the key in every position. The battery ground is getting 12.3v where it meets the chassis. I forgot to test that one I will get back to you with a reading as soon as I get back to the car.
Old 07-25-2016, 06:33 AM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Check the G1 ground wire.
Old 07-25-2016, 02:35 PM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
 
mk378's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,018
Likes: 0
Received 46 Likes on 43 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Your grounds are bad. There should be almost zero voltage difference between the battery minus post and the frame. Same thing for the engine.
Old 07-25-2016, 06:30 PM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Goobergobbler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I just checked all my grounds again and they all read 12.5v even the transmission ground

I'm sorry 12.25v

Last edited by Former User; 07-26-2016 at 05:32 AM.
Old 07-25-2016, 07:27 PM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
mk378's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,018
Likes: 0
Received 46 Likes on 43 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Put one meter probe on the lead post on the minus side that is part of the battery (not the terminal that is part of the car). Put the other probe on the frame or the engine. The reading should be very close to zero volts.

Do this test with the headlight switch on and/or someone turning the key trying to start.
Old 07-26-2016, 05:38 AM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned



Old 07-26-2016, 05:00 PM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Goobergobbler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

So this is with the headlight switch on and someone turning the key to start.
Old 07-26-2016, 05:01 PM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Goobergobbler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Basically the g1 battery ground has to be bad?
Old 07-27-2016, 01:37 AM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
 
forbiddenera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 863
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Originally Posted by Goobergobbler
Basically the g1 battery ground has to be bad?
Exactly. The voltage reading you are seeing there, assuming you did it right, is voltage grounding thru the multimeter instead of the ground (path of least resistance) as was said that reading should be near zero volts.
Old 07-27-2016, 03:53 PM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Goobergobbler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

That was it. 100% thanks so much guys
Old 07-27-2016, 04:14 PM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
 
forbiddenera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 863
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: 99 civic has no power when key is turned

Originally Posted by Goobergobbler
That was it. 100% thanks so much guys
Glad to hear it worked out and that you learned something in the process. HT /win.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bump2pass
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
5
04-04-2016 07:29 AM
civicboy420
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
27
08-20-2014 07:53 PM
dudee
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
4
11-23-2010 07:34 AM
EF Two
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
2
10-03-2003 08:39 PM
WuShu
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
2
07-15-2003 07:07 AM



Quick Reply: 99 civic has no power when key is turned



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:25 PM.