99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible?
11-27-2006, 09:04 AM
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99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible?
Anyone ever thought of using the b16 crank, pistons, and rods into the d16? They're both 16 valve vtec. I dunno if it's possible in terms of clearances. The b16's perfect rod/stroke ratio would be nice for high rpm.
11-27-2006, 09:09 AM
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Re: 99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible? (ICEMAN707)
So you're faced with these two choices:
1.) try and do a shitload of custom work to a D-series engine to increase displacement by nearly zero while retaining the shitty SOHC head with its pathetic flow characteristics or,
2.) just get a ******* B16.
No, your idea is not possible. Also, it's stupid. Think things through before you post them in public places to keep this kind of verbal spanking from occurring twice.
1.) try and do a shitload of custom work to a D-series engine to increase displacement by nearly zero while retaining the shitty SOHC head with its pathetic flow characteristics or,
2.) just get a ******* B16.
No, your idea is not possible. Also, it's stupid. Think things through before you post them in public places to keep this kind of verbal spanking from occurring twice.
11-27-2006, 09:10 AM
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Re: 99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible? (Archidictus)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you're faced with these two choices:
1.) try and do a shitload of custom work to a D-series engine to increase displacement by nearly zero while retaining the shitty SOHC head with its pathetic flow characteristics or,
2.) just get a ******* B16.
No, your idea is not possible. Also, it's stupid. Think things through before you post them in public places to keep this kind of verbal spanking from occurring twice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
1.) try and do a shitload of custom work to a D-series engine to increase displacement by nearly zero while retaining the shitty SOHC head with its pathetic flow characteristics or,
2.) just get a ******* B16.
No, your idea is not possible. Also, it's stupid. Think things through before you post them in public places to keep this kind of verbal spanking from occurring twice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
11-27-2006, 03:09 PM
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Re: 99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible? (Archidictus)
Damn dude, chill. Have YOU ever done such a swap to make a valid reason to have that kind of attitude? Are you an engine builder? AND why is it stupid? Everyone knows by the time you shell out the dough on a b16 swap, you could build up a turbo d16. So what's more stupid, swapping a STOCK 160hp b16 or having a built boosted D16 with 200-500hp??
I'm not trying to get more displacement by swapping the b16 internals, just more interested in the rod/stroke ratio for high (9k+) rpm durability. Plus adding forged aftermarket pistons or suzuki vitara pistons. That's why I ASKED if someone on here has ever attempted or even done it. Don't be an ******* cus I'm sure you've never personally done it to support your conclusion. Go spank your own ***, kid. I think you underestimate the d16...I think you need to go read up on d-series.org or hondatuning's 400hp d-series.
If I were to do a swap, I wouldn't bother with a b16. b18c1/c5, h22a, or K-series floats my boat.
I'm not trying to get more displacement by swapping the b16 internals, just more interested in the rod/stroke ratio for high (9k+) rpm durability. Plus adding forged aftermarket pistons or suzuki vitara pistons. That's why I ASKED if someone on here has ever attempted or even done it. Don't be an ******* cus I'm sure you've never personally done it to support your conclusion. Go spank your own ***, kid. I think you underestimate the d16...I think you need to go read up on d-series.org or hondatuning's 400hp d-series.
If I were to do a swap, I wouldn't bother with a b16. b18c1/c5, h22a, or K-series floats my boat.
11-27-2006, 03:28 PM
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Re: 99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible? (ICEMAN707)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ICEMAN707 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone ever thought of using the b16 crank, pistons, and rods into the d16? They're both 16 valve vtec. I dunno if it's possible in terms of clearances. The b16's perfect rod/stroke ratio would be nice for high rpm.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why not just buy aftermarket pistons? they'll hold more power...noob
why not just buy aftermarket pistons? they'll hold more power...noob
11-27-2006, 03:29 PM
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Re: 99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible? (ICEMAN707)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ICEMAN707 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn dude, chill. Have YOU ever done such a swap to make a valid reason to have that kind of attitude? Are you an engine builder? AND why is it stupid? Everyone knows by the time you shell out the dough on a b16 swap, you could build up a turbo d16. So what's more stupid, swapping a STOCK 160hp b16 or having a built boosted D16 with 200-500hp??
I'm not trying to get more displacement by swapping the b16 internals, just more interested in the rod/stroke ratio for high (9k+) rpm durability. Plus adding forged aftermarket pistons or suzuki vitara pistons. That's why I ASKED if someone on here has ever attempted or even done it. Don't be an ******* cus I'm sure you've never personally done it to support your conclusion. Go spank your own ***, kid. I think you underestimate the d16...I think you need to go read up on d-series.org or hondatuning's 400hp d-series.
If I were to do a swap, I wouldn't bother with a b16. b18c1/c5, h22a, or K-series floats my boat.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think his point is, that a b16 will end up being cheaper and easier to simply swap in.
I'm not trying to get more displacement by swapping the b16 internals, just more interested in the rod/stroke ratio for high (9k+) rpm durability. Plus adding forged aftermarket pistons or suzuki vitara pistons. That's why I ASKED if someone on here has ever attempted or even done it. Don't be an ******* cus I'm sure you've never personally done it to support your conclusion. Go spank your own ***, kid. I think you underestimate the d16...I think you need to go read up on d-series.org or hondatuning's 400hp d-series.
If I were to do a swap, I wouldn't bother with a b16. b18c1/c5, h22a, or K-series floats my boat.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think his point is, that a b16 will end up being cheaper and easier to simply swap in.
11-27-2006, 03:55 PM
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Re: 99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible? (2000EM1)
The prices of these engines are coming down, by the time you do any custom machine work you will be way past what a B16 costs, and you will still have a shitty engine. YOUR IDEA SUCKS, I just waisted 46 seconds of my life posting how stupid that is..
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11-27-2006, 06:24 PM
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Re: 99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible? (projEKt B)
they run supra pistons on b16 rods in dseries all the time. takes some machining. I think there is a user named turbo panda that can get the right pistons (they aren't USDM)
it changes the placement of the wrist pin in the piston, so I don't know if I would do all that just for a 9k rpm. I would rather get a turbo that kit the rpm range of the motor I have.
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it changes the placement of the wrist pin in the piston, so I don't know if I would do all that just for a 9k rpm. I would rather get a turbo that kit the rpm range of the motor I have.
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Re: 99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible? (ICEMAN707)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ICEMAN707 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn dude, chill. Have YOU ever done such a swap to make a valid reason to have that kind of attitude?
So what's more stupid, swapping a STOCK 160hp b16 or having a built boosted D16 with 200-500hp?? </TD></TR></TABLE>
look at whats under his name... "resident ***-whooper" he didn't put that there for no reason. he might be a little "blunt" at times
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and are you serious for the price of a b16 swap you could make a 500hp d series? this i'd like to see.
So what's more stupid, swapping a STOCK 160hp b16 or having a built boosted D16 with 200-500hp?? </TD></TR></TABLE>
look at whats under his name... "resident ***-whooper" he didn't put that there for no reason. he might be a little "blunt" at times
.and are you serious for the price of a b16 swap you could make a 500hp d series? this i'd like to see.
11-27-2006, 07:08 PM
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Re: 99-00 Si B16A2 internals into D16 block - possible? (ICEMAN707)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ICEMAN707 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn dude, chill. Have YOU ever done such a swap to make a valid reason to have that kind of attitude? Are you an engine builder? AND why is it stupid? Everyone knows by the time you shell out the dough on a b16 swap, you could build up a turbo d16. So what's more stupid, swapping a STOCK 160hp b16 or having a built boosted D16 with 200-500hp??</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, I haven't ever done such a swap because such a swap (B16 crank and rods and pistons) is not possible. B16's can be had for under $1500 easily. Good luck making a 500hp D-series with that
Am I an engine builder? Well, I'm one of many people in Columbus who builds engines for people, so yeah - you could say that I am, indeed, an engine builder.
Why it's stupid will be discussed below.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IceDouche »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not trying to get more displacement by swapping the b16 internals, just more interested in the rod/stroke ratio for high (9k+) rpm durability. Plus adding forged aftermarket pistons or suzuki vitara pistons. That's why I ASKED if someone on here has ever attempted or even done it. Don't be an ******* cus I'm sure you've never personally done it to support your conclusion. Go spank your own ***, kid. I think you underestimate the d16...I think you need to go read up on d-series.org or hondatuning's 400hp d-series. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The main reason I know you're full of nothing but dreams and **** is that you seem interested in revving high - probably because you're a moron who thinks that by revving the **** out of his SOHC VTEC engine he'll make more power out of it. It doesn't work like that, kid. Sorry. You'll run out of cam and valvespring long before you see any benefit from winding your D16Z6 that high.
Why don't <u>YOU</u> go and reread your precious Honda Tuning article on their 400hp d-series and then come back and defend why you think putting a B16 rotating assembly is going to get you any closer to that goal. Moron.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Asshat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I were to do a swap, I wouldn't bother with a b16. b18c1/c5, h22a, or K-series floats my boat.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's great. Next time you want to defend your mistake, make sure it's not against someone who knows what the expletive they're talking about. A little forethought will get you places here.
No, I haven't ever done such a swap because such a swap (B16 crank and rods and pistons) is not possible. B16's can be had for under $1500 easily. Good luck making a 500hp D-series with that
Am I an engine builder? Well, I'm one of many people in Columbus who builds engines for people, so yeah - you could say that I am, indeed, an engine builder.Why it's stupid will be discussed below.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IceDouche »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not trying to get more displacement by swapping the b16 internals, just more interested in the rod/stroke ratio for high (9k+) rpm durability. Plus adding forged aftermarket pistons or suzuki vitara pistons. That's why I ASKED if someone on here has ever attempted or even done it. Don't be an ******* cus I'm sure you've never personally done it to support your conclusion. Go spank your own ***, kid. I think you underestimate the d16...I think you need to go read up on d-series.org or hondatuning's 400hp d-series. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The main reason I know you're full of nothing but dreams and **** is that you seem interested in revving high - probably because you're a moron who thinks that by revving the **** out of his SOHC VTEC engine he'll make more power out of it. It doesn't work like that, kid. Sorry. You'll run out of cam and valvespring long before you see any benefit from winding your D16Z6 that high.
Why don't <u>YOU</u> go and reread your precious Honda Tuning article on their 400hp d-series and then come back and defend why you think putting a B16 rotating assembly is going to get you any closer to that goal. Moron.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Asshat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I were to do a swap, I wouldn't bother with a b16. b18c1/c5, h22a, or K-series floats my boat.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's great. Next time you want to defend your mistake, make sure it's not against someone who knows what the expletive they're talking about. A little forethought will get you places here.
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danm we shouldn't be rooting him on like this what happens next time when we ask the retarded question.... oh thats right i just search.
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danm we shouldn't be rooting him on like this what happens next time when we ask the retarded question.... oh thats right i just search.
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haha welcome to HT, newb.
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The retarded question didn't incite my ire - his antagonistic defense thereof is what pushed me to eViolence
The retarded question didn't incite my ire - his antagonistic defense thereof is what pushed me to eViolence
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The retarded question didn't incite my ire - his antagonistic defense thereof is what pushed me to eViolence</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha and it was eViolence pwnage at it's best...funniest.
The retarded question didn't incite my ire - his antagonistic defense thereof is what pushed me to eViolence
</TD></TR></TABLE>haha and it was eViolence pwnage at it's best...funniest.
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