Mazz

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Hello,

I'm not an hard writer on this forum so I hope you apologize

I know, this will be the 100th thread on the same usual story, b16a2s dying in the middle of nowhere, and some of us completely stuck in their driver position whit the key always turned on, and that cranking noise in the air...

My Civic is now 218.000km, don't know how many miles they actually are, but who cares.
Last summer I replaced distributor cap and rotor because car did'nt start, but afterwards I discovered that was a coil failure, so I replaced it as well, whit a second hand one..
Car ran sweet until last week, when on the highway the check engine went on, car lost power, more and more, until I found myself in the emergency lane, whit no power, low and unstable idling..
after 3 minutes the engine died, and refused to start anymore. I believed that there was poor quality gas in the tank (just refill 5 miles back), but after a fast ECU check, the engine light blinked error 8 and 15.
TDC sensor and output ignition signal.
is that crap distributor again??

fuel comes to the inlet, and spills out of injectors, so it is not his fault. Not checked spark plugs yet (Accel cables are crap, please stay away from them!) but some members of the HondaClub italy told me that at 90%, error 8 and 15 are linked to that TDC sensor, wich comes whit the entire distributor, and is not possible to buy it without the whole pack.

help, make my first honda-tech thread an helpful one

94EG8

Code 15 is ususally a bad coil or igniter. Code 8 is the TDC sensor though, and yes you have to buy the whole distributor. You can somewhat get around this by buying a used '96 - '98 distributor from a lower end model (cheap when purchased used, needs to come from something other than a 1.4L base model though, those wont work) and swapping the CYP/CKP/TDC sensors from it into the the B16 distributor housing.

Mazz

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Can I try to get distributors from other engines?
d16z6 has the same one? any rover?

I will probably go for a new one, no more spare used parts, they always let me down.

94EG8

Complete distributor can come from any OBD2 B-series vtec engine. You can use an OBD2 series "big plug" D-series distributor for parts though.

They're expensive new from Honda and most of the aftermarket ones are junk. (distributor king or richporter makes a half decent one though)

Mazz

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car is 1994, is an eg6, so probably obd2 stuff won't fit. or not? I'm a complete noob in electronic.
When I say new it's supposed to be aftermarket one, it would be honda if the lottery this evening will finally go right, but I don't think it will happen..

Former User

You probably should buy a new OEM distributor and also replace the spark plugs and plug wires.

94EG8

Ah, you didn't mention the OBD1 part. B16A2 is an OBD2 engine. In that case yes a D16Z6 distributor can be used for parts (the bare housing is different and the metal shaft that runs through it, but all the electronic parts are the same.

Mazz

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Hi guys, bad news from my eg6.
I finally managed to save 200€ to buy the new distributor, not oem original one, but a new shiny aftermarket one.
problem is that error 8, TDC sensor, is still blinking from the dashboard... how's that possible???
I tought that probably is due to my wront ecu reset procedure. I use to unplug the whole battery, wait some seconds and then reconnect all the way back.

car is still not starting, and cannot check if spark plugs are working because I'm alone in the garage, and it's impossible to turn the key and hold the spark plug to check if it fires at the same time, so, can the community suggest something interesting to let me out from this tremendous hole ??

thank you, here's some pics

new distributor




the dead old one, that could be the major problem





broken cover that came with it




car in the same position of three months ago





set of old/new wheels waiting to be fitted






and last but not least, my new problem, error 22 vtec oil pressure switch

Mazz

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thanks for editing the dumb title

anyone has suggestions ??

Former User

Resistance test the TDC sensor and test the two TDC wires for an open or short. If those are fine, then swap in a known good ECU.

Mazz

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I just checked that the engine has no spark, so that's an electrcal problem that i can't fix, because i can't use a multimeter (my personal fault).
hoping to receive help for a friend that knows how to behave wth electricity.

Mazz

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I have to say that my car is not a swapped EG, is an eg6 that came with b16a2 in origin.
the ecu is a stock P30.

Mazz

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Hello, I finally got my car running again.
It was my fault, I did not fit the distriutor properly.. I noticed that by taking the distributor off and looking to the inner rotor, which was badly damaged by my angry knocking with the hammer to pop it in place..



so, i swapped the rotor from my old distributor, pup the whole assembly in place, charged the battery and the car finally fired after 6 months of sleeping.
there was also a worn engine wiring which was fixed time ago, but not welded, so we sorted that as well.



as the car fired up, I noticed that the thermostat was stuck.. I started knocking with a prybar, but i did it too hard, and I dug a hole into the metal.. how stupid am I ?



as the damage was done, it was time to take apart the thermostat and check if there was a fault or not, here it is:



and here you can se the green junk that I use to put in the radiator, wrong colour !! (should be blue for alluminium blocks)



as expected, the thermostat was working well..



I was scared by the hot temperature and the instale idling, but ok.. could e an intermittent failure, due to the long time stop.. now i'm searcing a new cover, because of my stupidness..


my problem is now.... me!! because in the meantime I've taken the driveshafts apart to do an overhaul, and so all I need to put my car back on the road, are the two outer cv joints, new boots and some clamps..



I am also trying to rebuild an old JDM center console which I took from a guy who couldn't put it all togheter, and now it's a job for me..

kyden

sounds like you need to step back from cars. you shouldn't need to force a distributor on. i don't even have any idea why you decided to smack the thermostat housing at all, let alone putting a hole in it.

Mazz

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you're probably right, these months without my car had drove my completely crazy and with no patient at all, these are the results.

Mazz

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replaced thermostat cover, car runs a bit weird at idle, with rpms going up and down very quickly until temperature rises..
i should check valve clearance and also leaks from the intake, but I just want to get the car out of the garage, and then I'll hopefully fix all those prolems..

Mazz

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picked up new driveshafts from the ebay in UK, they should arrive today by the end of the day, fingers crossed !!
as they hopefully arrive, I'll run to the garage, install them and get this piece of crap finally out of my garage.

HondaPartsHero

Bleed your coolant system

Mazz

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The bleeding process has been done several times, but with the sistemy completely empty is a bit difficult that it has been in the past.
there is a huge amount of air coming out of the bleeder nut, so you can't properly realize when you have to tight it and let the system build pressure up..

EgSiSean

check your idle air control valve

Mazz

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Hello there,
Some news from my wreckmobile..
I've replaced the intake manifold gasket and got rid of the vacuum leaks that I had all over the intake; I then fixed the bad vtec connector and got also rid of error 22. Now I have error 8 and 41 left, which are the dear Tdc sensor which never leaves me alone, and the o2 sensor..
I have a bad idle, with rpms going up and down when car is warmed up, but no air in the cooling system. In order to go step by step I fixed all the valves that operate the idle such as and the water gizmo that goes underneath the butterfly valve. All is well, all is fixed, part for the Tdc sensor and the oxygen sond. I'm already searching for a working sond in order to fix the idle once for all, but I don't know how to fix mi BRAND NEW tdc sensor.

Mazz

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can anyone help?