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Old 08-16-2013, 07:37 PM
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Default 93 hatch with b16 tech question

So I have been trying to do some research on my motor setup (was in the car when I purchased it) and I could use a little help on figuring out if it is setup properly or not.
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Its a 93 dx hatch
b16 lsd transmission
b16a swap (now here's part of my confusion) my block serial number starts with 12 meaning its a 1.2 million series found in the 92 XSi and RSi. <<< got that info from here>> http://www.automotiveforums.com/t166...otting___.html
but looking on here>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine it says that the first gen should be running a P-fk1 or PW0 ecu. Which would mean my motor is an obd-0.
However, I am running a P-30 ecu in my car which is a obd-1. Is this what I should be running?

Also my build year stamp on my head is 91 (which is obd-0 I believe)

is there anything else that I could look at on my engine to see if I have the right stuff on this engine?
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post some pictures of the engine and intake for us. you have an obd1 car it should all be OBd1 . . . hence the obd1 ecu. the transmission must be hydraulic. its right for your car. older is cable tranny. . .
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Also. if your head is stamped 91. . . check the month . . .I believe they start producing engines for the following year half was through the previous year . . . you could have a 92 engine . . but it was probably made in june or July of 91 . .
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If the head is stamped 91 it is off a 92.

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If the head is stamped 91 it is off a 90.
That's jokes . . .how do they stamp it a year after it was sold . . . come now . .. it it was stamped 91 it was either a late 91 model or it was made late in the year for the 92 model year kind of a huge difference, that was a generational change . . . . motors for 92 would of been made late 91 . . .if they were for 93 they could of been made all 92 long . . . 91/91 was a generation change . . . . use google its gotta be nearly common sense.
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same same like a lot of 96 d16y7 and y8's came stamped with a 95 year . . . .
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Originally Posted by doublezerohatch
post some pictures of the engine and intake for us. you have an obd1 car it should all be OBd1 . . . hence the obd1 ecu. the transmission must be hydraulic. its right for your car. older is cable tranny. . .
ok I will try and get pics of the codes and stuff thats stamped on each of the items. The transmission thats in it was originally a cable but was converted to hydraulic when they converted the car from auto to manual.

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Also. if your head is stamped 91. . . check the month . . .I believe they start producing engines for the following year half was through the previous year . . . you could have a 92 engine . . but it was probably made in june or July of 91 . .
how can I tell the month on it? I will try and get the pic of all the stamps on the head.
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oh ya and the axles that I have to run are 93 integra axles. The ones with both male ends on the driver side. the 94's did not work.
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The head stamp will only tell you when the head was cast not when the motor was made. I have seen 94 year marked heads on 99-00 Si and on ITR motors. Honda probably had a bunch of B16 heads stocked up and used them as they needed them. My head is marked 90 or 89 but I was told when I bought it that is came off a JDM SirII motor so that would be a 92-95 motor.
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ok so I got some numbers to the best of my ability.
circle stamp markings on the head: 91-4-8-90, and PR3
Distributor: TD-680, and 3705 (only numbers I could find stamped on it.)
Intake mani: P73, and HF-1
ECU: P30-001, and 211133 (part of sticker looks rubbed off)
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anything? am still doing some more looking into it.
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ok so far I have found out that the intake mani is an ITR mani. also got a hold of the guy I got the car from and he said it has itr cams in it also.

However I am running a stock unmodded p30 ecu and so I am wanting to find out if I should get a chipped ecu or not. I live in an area where getting dyno's and tuning from a shop is kinda non existant unless I drive 4 1/2 hours one way lol. and anyone with a b16 trans knows that long at those high rpms is not fun haha.
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Default Re: 93 hatch with b16 tech question

also, would the cams and intake be the reason my vtec crossover is really loud?
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Default Re: 93 hatch with b16 tech question

Originally Posted by doublezerohatch
That's jokes . . .how do they stamp it a year after it was sold . . . come now . .. it it was stamped 91 it was either a late 91 model or it was made late in the year for the 92 model year kind of a huge difference, that was a generational change . . . . motors for 92 would of been made late 91 . . .if they were for 93 they could of been made all 92 long . . . 91/91 was a generation change . . . . use google its gotta be nearly common sense.

I meant 92, not 90. Sorry was typing fast.
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