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Old 09-19-2012, 04:03 PM
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I have a 1992 civic 1.5liter automatic.

On colder mornings the car will start with the key in the "start" position, but when I release it to the "on" position it kills right away. It seems to help to give it some gas and hold the rpms for a about 5-10 seconds or so, then it will stay running. I dont have any issues with it killing when driving, at least not yet. lol

I have done some searching, and have found either the ignition switch or main relay (maybe something else I didnt come across?). I did take apart the main relay and the resistor solders were kind of "dry" looking. I help a soldering gun to those two and remelted them. That did not help. The other solders still looked nice and shinny and I didnt have solder at the time I had it apart.

At this point I am leaning towards the ignition switch, but I guess I would like as many opinions as I can get, lol. So please chime in if you can.

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CEL codes?

Have you cleaned the IACV and FITV. Click the links in my signature.
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CEL codes?

Have you cleaned the IACV and FITV. Click the links in my signature.

No codes at least CEL light is not on.
I have not cleaned either the IACV or the FITV
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Does the CEL work?
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Does the CEL work?
Yes it does
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When the engine dies after key is released, do the dash warning lights (e.g., charge system, oil pressure) turn on?
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When the engine dies after key is released, do the dash warning lights (e.g., charge system, oil pressure) turn on?
That I will have to check in the morning, I dont recall if that happens or not

It only happens on the first start on a cooler/cold morning, the rest of the day it starts fine and runs very well
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That I will have to check in the morning, I dont recall if that happens or not
If they do not turn on, then the ignition switch is almost surely the problem.

If they turn on, clean the IACV and FITV.
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Default Re: 92 civic starts then dies when key is released

The electrical part of the ignition switch, that's you culprit right there, $45.00 at honda.
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The electrical part of the ignition switch, that's you culprit right there, $45.00 at honda.
On a 92 it it the whole thing, switch and wiring. Kind of a one piece deal besides the lock cylinder. $285.00 from autozone, lol I wish $45.00.
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On a 92 it it the whole thing, switch and wiring. Kind of a one piece deal besides the lock cylinder. $285.00 from autozone, lol I wish $45.00.
Not true. Check eBay.
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Not true. Check eBay.
I can get a used on here with a lifetime warranty for 29.99, that would be the route I will take if need be.
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Default Re: 92 civic starts then dies when key is released

Oh yeah, this morning when I am ready to check for dash lights and have my hand on the main relay (to feel for the third click) its starts right up lol.
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Default Re: 92 civic starts then dies when key is released

So again this morning it starts right up no problem, lol, however it did start and stall right away on a stop I made on my way home. The dash lights were out. It looks like I am going to make a trip to that lifetime warranty ignition switch at the junkyard. 29.99 isnt bad at all, with a key. I had problems with my old key wanting to come out when switched off. I found something on the internet about taking out the pin on the switch. taking out the pin overrides the security feature of it. I have been kind of wondering if that may have contributed to the demise of the switch. I didnt do anything but remove the pin though, it was very easy and I just had to bend the plastic housing a little to get the pin out. I will see how the used one with the key works for awhile I guess. Kind of lame to have to carry around two keys for the car though.
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