k.

well since my car is under a non-op status in CA, and is no longer my daily driver. i am beginning to save up for my motor. i was thinking of going through crvtec swap, but i saw some good prices on hondamotorsonline.com for b16b and b18c5.

now the big question is: which engine? i cant make up my mind!! i dont drag race so leave that out of the reasoning.

i was thinkin maybe b16b, since its something most people wouldnt get, but if i get b18c5, i can opt for the usdm version and make it legal. *shrugz*

any suggestions?

~k.

fowler!

b16b and stroke it to 1.8. Good stuff

bhcvc

Ppl don't usually get b16b's cuz it's almost as much as the b18c-r but can't produce as much torque or additional gains when modded (displacement helps when going NA). I'd opt for the b18c-r or b18c5 if you wanna stay legal. It's just a lil more and will have more potential than the b16b. stroking the b16b will prove costlier than just getting the itr swap in the first place and yield the same results. tho, if you're looking for originality and willing to pay the price, than go for the ctr swap. hth.

hybridreams

C5 - even though has similiar gear ratios as the b16 - it has the lsd! woo hoo! plus more hp! woo hoo x2!!

B18C5-EH2

Taken from 3 other threads about the same thing (stole it from myself)

Okay, so since I've had the "big 3" which are thew normal VTEC swaps for the 1992-1995 Civic, I'll give you my rundown.
I had a 1992 Civic Si hatch, and my fiancee' has one as well. Cars are identical in terms of mods and features - same intake, exhaust, no A/C, same wheels/tires, IDENTICAL. AEM CAI, Tanabe Racing medallion, DC header on her car, same on mine minus the Dc header.

Only difference is which motor is in each car.

She has a 1999 B16A2 in hers - from a 1999 Civic Si coupe.

First I had a 1995 B18C1 from a 1995 Integra GS-R. That motor had i/h/e, but not a cold air AEM - just short ram.

Running the cars side by side on the street and dropping, the B18C1 would pull on the B16A2 every time. From a dead stop the B18C1 would pull a good car length maybe even 1.5 cars on the B16A2 by the time we were topping 3rd gear.

While I'll say the B16A2 pulls great, it did not pull as good as the B18C1. The B18C1 had much more midrange power, and the low-end killed the B16A2 as well. Daily driving in the B18C1 was easier because you didn't HAVE to rev it to 8000rpm just to hit a strong powerband to pass a car - B16A2 you did.

Dyno results?

The B16A2 baselined at 143whp, 102ft/lbs. torque.

The B18C1 pulled 150whp (kind of low for B18C1 ) and 123ft/lbs. of torque.

If you don't think the 21 more ft/lbs. of torque made a big difference, then I'm here to say that it does.

At the track my B18C1 ran a 14.6 on ****-*** 16'' Falken Ziex tires on heavy-*** 16'' wheels. I'm thinking 14.5 or 14.4 would have been it's best had I had better tires and lighter wheels.

Never ran her car yet, but it fells like a good 14.8-14.9 car.

Keep in mind that these are full interior Si hatches, both weighing in at 2289lbs. or so with swaps.

So, I sold the B18C1 GS-R swap and got a 1998 B18C5 swap from a 1998 Integra Type R, USDM.

The difference between the B18C5 and the B18C1 and B16A2 is night and day.

While the B18C1 still had the best mid and lowend power, the B18C5 surges forward at 6300 or so and pulls HARD. How hard?

175whp and 122ft/lbs. of torque. this was just AEM CAI for 99 Si, Tanabe Racing Medallion Exhaust and re-chipped "kenji-spec" P28 ECU.

It was good for a 13.9@100.97mph in full interior 2289.lbs Si hatchback. This was my first time at the strip with that set-up too, so I could have done better I'm sure.

So there you have it - same cars, different motors. Different results too.

k.

thanks people! i think i have decided on the b18c5

~k.

hb_racer

b18c5 for sho!!!!

But, hey... remember that the b16a2 has 10 hp less than the sir II and 25 less than the ctr. So your comparison doesn't really work. I wish I could go b18c5, but don't got the dough. So I went b16a sirII and it pulls okay, and I wonder what it would do if i had the right tranny. long story. Well, b18c5 is the way to go bro if you got the $$$... But you will get taken out by very dangerously built crvtec's. But then again, you'll get to drive yours alot longer. hahahah

Peace

gsrvx

How much money do you want to spend? I think that's really important.

-Rod