*Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
#1
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*Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
I FINALLY figured out what was wrong with my Shifter. Bought the shift linkage bushings from ES and it didn't really fix it. A shop told me it was a the shift linkage, but it wasn't. Ordered parts online and got them all in today.
When in gear i can literally move the shifter around from 1st-5th and couldn't tell what gear I was in.
All OEM parts used from Honda.
TOOLS NEEDED:
12mm Socket
12mm Wrench
Parts needed:
#23- 4x- O-Ring (11x1.9)
Part# 91303-HA0-004
#11- 1x Collar, RR Joint
Part# 54117-SH3-000
#5- 2x Bushing, RR Joint
Part# 54107-SA0-010
#4- 2x Washer, Thrust
Part# 54105-692-010
#21- Self Lock Nut
Part# 90115-659-003
#24- Hex Bolt (8x50)
Part# 92201-08050-0H
Time to replace: 30 min or less
Highlighted in yellow is what/where we are replacing. Outlined in red was where the ES bushings were replaced.
4x O-Rings go on the Collar. Collar goes into the bottom of shifter. Bushing RR Joint goes next on each side with lip on the outside. The Thrust washer goes last with the indented side mating with the lip of the Bushing. I replaced the bolt and nut because it was rusty and wanted to have it on hand incase the bolt was stuck or snapped.
When in gear i can literally move the shifter around from 1st-5th and couldn't tell what gear I was in.
All OEM parts used from Honda.
TOOLS NEEDED:
12mm Socket
12mm Wrench
Parts needed:
#23- 4x- O-Ring (11x1.9)
Part# 91303-HA0-004
#11- 1x Collar, RR Joint
Part# 54117-SH3-000
#5- 2x Bushing, RR Joint
Part# 54107-SA0-010
#4- 2x Washer, Thrust
Part# 54105-692-010
#21- Self Lock Nut
Part# 90115-659-003
#24- Hex Bolt (8x50)
Part# 92201-08050-0H
Time to replace: 30 min or less
Highlighted in yellow is what/where we are replacing. Outlined in red was where the ES bushings were replaced.
4x O-Rings go on the Collar. Collar goes into the bottom of shifter. Bushing RR Joint goes next on each side with lip on the outside. The Thrust washer goes last with the indented side mating with the lip of the Bushing. I replaced the bolt and nut because it was rusty and wanted to have it on hand incase the bolt was stuck or snapped.
Last edited by PhiLLyMYdiLLy; 03-16-2017 at 09:29 AM. Reason: Add pictures
#2
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
Good information, thanks for sharing man. Would probably be a good idea for people to refresh these at the same time as doing a shifter install or bushing replacement.
#3
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
No more hitting the passengers knee shifting into 5th and crazy rattles when idling.
Last edited by PhiLLyMYdiLLy; 03-16-2017 at 11:20 AM. Reason: Spelling
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
Here is the old part. 3x O-Rings missing. The "Top Hat" Bushings were non existent, and what's left of the Thrust Washers
The collar is all deformed and well worn...shows its true age!.
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
When I rebuilt the trans on my Integra I replaced 7, 10, 23, 4, 5, 18, and 14 - basically everything that wasn't metal - then had a welder cut out the U-joint on 12 and replace it with an aftermarket sealed U-joint. Now the only slop left is the slop in the transmission itself, which is more than you'd think. :/
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
The exact same parts exist at the other end of the linkage (inside the front u-joint). This end is not serviceable from Honda, but Hasport makes a kit to fix it. This end usually goes bad from a shift-rod oil seal leak.
Pinpointing these problems before ordering parts should be easy via a simple hands-on inspection.
Pinpointing these problems before ordering parts should be easy via a simple hands-on inspection.
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#8
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter* - possible to rebuild this area?
Hi guys,
My shifter rod assembly is getting quite loose in my '95 DX. I have circled the offending area in green in the attached photo. I have gotten under the car and looked this area over the best I can and it seems that it should be rebuildable. Has anyone done this and knows the parts required? If it is not rebuildable, can you explain why, as I try to learn about mechanics when fixing my car in addition to getting the work completed? Thanks a lot,
blackdog48
My shifter rod assembly is getting quite loose in my '95 DX. I have circled the offending area in green in the attached photo. I have gotten under the car and looked this area over the best I can and it seems that it should be rebuildable. Has anyone done this and knows the parts required? If it is not rebuildable, can you explain why, as I try to learn about mechanics when fixing my car in addition to getting the work completed? Thanks a lot,
blackdog48
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
Hasport sells a kit to rebush the u-joint. OEM uses a soft rubber that breaks down over time and causes a lot of slop. The Hasport kit uses delrin. You'll have to grind off the head of the rivet, punch it out, and the Hasport kit comes with a bolt to replace it with. They don't advertise it on their website, but if you call or email them, you can purchase it. I bought one probably 5 years ago and it was about $15, if I recall.
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#11
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
Hasport sells a kit to rebush the u-joint. OEM uses a soft rubber that breaks down over time and causes a lot of slop. The Hasport kit uses delrin. You'll have to grind off the head of the rivet, punch it out, and the Hasport kit comes with a bolt to replace it with. They don't advertise it on their website, but if you call or email them, you can purchase it. I bought one probably 5 years ago and it was about $15, if I recall.
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I tried the complete Innovate shift linkage but did not like it and was lucky and found an OEM shift linkage brand new! my shifter feels great!
#12
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
Thanks for the additional recommendtion for the Hasport bushing kit wunfstgr. This may be a silly question, but I'll ask it anyway. Does the shifter rod assembly need to be removed from the car to change the bushings in question? According to the link you included, it sounds like its really tight to get in, so I'm guessing so. Thanks again,
blackdog48
blackdog48
#14
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
Thanks for the additional recommendtion for the Hasport bushing kit wunfstgr. This may be a silly question, but I'll ask it anyway. Does the shifter rod assembly need to be removed from the car to change the bushings in question? According to the link you included, it sounds like its really tight to get in, so I'm guessing so. Thanks again,
blackdog48
blackdog48
Yea just remove it! it's not really that hard to remove, the pressed pin will be the hardest, but you can use an air press gun to punch it out or even a punch pin and hammer. I once rigged up a jack and made my own press with a few sockets and slowly pressed it out with my jack lol it worked perfect.
Working under the car is dangerous and like DaX says just take it out and work on it on a bench!
#15
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
Thank you DaX and wunfstgsr, I figured so . Do either of you know if the kit is compatable with a Japan-built model ('95 DX manual) (i.e. is the shifter rod the same)? I sometimes run into issues with this, though not often. I did ask Hasport about it, but received no feedback. Cheers,
blackdog48
blackdog48
#16
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
Thank you DaX and wunfstgsr, I figured so . Do either of you know if the kit is compatable with a Japan-built model ('95 DX manual) (i.e. is the shifter rod the same)? I sometimes run into issues with this, though not often. I did ask Hasport about it, but received no feedback. Cheers,
blackdog48
blackdog48
@Hasport
You can also try one of these if you don't want to deal with the pin but it's pretty expensive
#17
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Re: *Fixed Sloppy/Loose Shifter*
Yeah, the bushing kit (with shipping) is $25 (versus $75 + shipping on PLM for the bitch pin replacement kit). Hasport drew up an invoice for me, so I'll go with them. Thanks guys!!,
blackdog48
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