briq4

Can you explain that? I'm not talking about stopping power, I'm thinking the friction material is the same footprint, but is required to do a LOT more work as the Accords have grown in size over the generations. Which I would think would make it wear out faster? A larger diameter rotor would help dissipate heat, but as far as the friction material available?

vivid 02

Not an accord but still based off it, I had a 2009 TSX which I bought brand new. At 1,500 my front rotors were warped. The dealer fixed them by resurfacing them. At 9,000 miles the rear brakes started squeeling. I took it upon myself to check them out myself and sure enough, the rear pads were done for. I never drove that car hard or even in daily stop and go traffic. I was perplexed at how the rear pads wear out before my second oil change.
I bought a BMW and just sold the TSX. The TSX had too many other problems and I was tired of going to the dealer every other month. I bought a new TSX and gave up on a 6cyl RWD sedan because I wanted honda reliability.

CoreyR

the way i understand it is more surface area per revolution, basically

brandonick2000

no it works like a lever or a larger wrench the farther away from the center of the hub the more power it has to stop

checkZvtec

the largest problem must be the compensation for front nose diving. they have to increase rear braking bias to fix that problem. coupled with people who gun it before a red light or in stop/go traffic etc, we are all hearing about rear brake issues. this is an engineering problem much more complex than changing the rear pads alone. i agree that larger rear rotors & diff pads would do the trick. now, we all know honda wont do that to existing cars. i bet the 2011 models will have them standard. prob were too embarrassed to the 09 or 10 models. hell, they may keep the deisgn flaw until redesign model comes out to avoid conflicts.

honeygee2

posted the above last Sept. Maybe honda wont call it a recall but as the letter gets to more people everyone will be getting their brakes done. Lets remember the first cars came out sept 12, 2007 so time wise they are all still under warranty.
So lets crunch some numbers...they have sold about 700000 of these cars so far. Lets say 500000 complain and or want money back for services done at an average of 125 each. Remember honda will pay you even if you did the work yourself. Price tag..62 and a half MILLION...not counting the bad will they generated. But dont forgrt its a consumable item!

The Original Whitey

I just got a letter in the mail yesterday from Honda about this problem saying they'll pay for replacement rear brakes. I guess they lost the lawsuit

LPED

No , AFAIK there will not be a trial , this is the out come of that, both side agree to these terms .

foaxaca

Got the same letter yesterday also - Honda settled and agreed to reimburse for replacement rear pads up to $125 for OEM Honda Rear Brake Pads or up to $150 for replacement rear pads using "improved" Honda Rear Brake Pads. Don't know what "improved" means. It does look like it means if you bought aftermarket pads you are out of luck. They are only paying for Honda brand pads. Also looks like you would have a hard time documenting everything if you just bought the pads and replaced them yourself.

http://www.accordsettlement.com for more info.

Mechanic

No, HMC hasn't agreed to this.

93.2

i've done three accords at my dealership, mainly 08's seem to be the worst, there having you flip the slider pins and install new pads with retaining springs, but most of these cars don't have 20k on them with 8mm pads in the front and like 2mm in the back.

George Knighton

There is more than one way to do that. There are all kinds of suspension fixes to front nose dive, including the "active" front suspension in the 6-6 TL of current manufacture.

But, on the other hand, if you look, you'll notice that the rear brake disks on the 6-6 TL are larger than the front.

MSchu

They are? I have never noticed... I have to check that out.

I finally received my letter... this is NOT a Court mandated settlement... this is a good will settlement. the judge never issued a ruling, instead Honda stepped up to the plate to offer owners compensation. It clearly states this in the literature.

Props to honda

Katana Pilot

B.S. If you are going to comment on the proposed settlement to the Class Action Lawsuit, at least get your facts correct. This is NOT a "good will" settlement. Honda was sued and ran the numbers. It was far cheaper for them to agree to the settlement, than to fight in court and possibly lose - never mind the bad publicity that the lawyers would likely generate in advance of the hearings.

We can debate the merits of lawyers chasing class action suits, but don't try to make Honda the "good guys" in this. They would have done nothing if they had not been sued. You can ban me too, like you did HoneyGee, but I refuse to drink the Kool Aid.

jdm91CrxSi

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