accordexchange

i did a search and found one thread on the b&m... i've been looking into the GReddy oil cooler kit... people might say get B&M for the price... i was just wondering if lower oil temperatures will result in power or do they help the engine (and turbo) live longer (kind like tranny coolers)..? also, will i need an oil filter relocation kit with an aftermarket oil cooler or is that something separate..?

"GReddy / GREX Oil Cooler Kits help prolong the life of your engine components and oil. Hard drving causes higher engine temperatures. Factory oil coolers are normally a small water-cooled device sandwiched between the oil filter and engine block. This taxes the cooling system for the engine. GReddy / GREX oil coolers are an excellent alternative. By using a similar inner-fin core design as our famous intercoolers, we are able to increase oil capacity, decrease oil temperatures, and extend engine and oil life. Our systems also offer an internal (or external) thermostat to allow for quick engine warm up. The efficient core and durable steel-braided lines insure good flow and a leak free installation."

Accord94DX

pictures because i am so goddamn cool:

urbanlegend21

in all reality unless you are running a setup that will increase enigine temps signifigantly or doing road/drag racing where engine temp is a factor then an oil cooler is a waste of money

Honda's can run for 500,000 miles......... what more engine life do you want? do you think you will drive the car to 1 million miles

twkdCD595

I run an extra oil cooler for the added protection when I add some heat to the motor.

I use a nice billet cooler.

accordexchange

Accord94DX, i have to admit-that was pretty badass..!

SOHCArchangel says, "on open deck motors some argue that there is enough thermal exchange between the oil and coolant and all you would need is a lower temp thermostat, and fan switch, but it wont hurt though especially if you are turning higher revs, which is hard to do on a f22/h23, plus extra oil capacity is not a bad thing either..."

urbanlegend21, i was looking for some hidden horsepower but it just seems like most coolers are designed to prolong the life of the parts... my accord is turbocharged and the engine temperatures can get pretty hot... and i was wondering if a reduction in oil temperature will result in any kind of power gains or not... or is just an added safety product..?

iam7head

Urbanlegend: I think accordexchange have a boosted monster

you prolly wont benefit from it if you ar NA, mildly modded..
oil cooler are great for boosted car tho


[Modified by iam7head, 12:32 AM 3/18/2003]

iam7head

you dont need a relocation kit as far as i know.
I am getting one as soon as i get my phat check..
accordexchange: grab a tranny cooler for you at if not already
and get a inline filter kit for the ATF

teamlegacy

Theres nothing bad about something that will lower temps in the motor. Even if power isn't added, it's a good precaution...

BTW: accordexchange has a EX auto with the DRAG kit last time I checked (HS ownage )

accordexchange

ok ok already-i think everyone already knows what i got under the hood... oh yea, killed a red 88-91 crx w/ integra engine swap (might be my friend's friend) last night on the highway... we raced several times-that was fun...

i guess i'm interested in the GReddy because there isn't a shitload of parts for the accord but GReddy got a specific application for the 5th gen. accords... but i've been advised that if my car isn't currently overheating, then i don't "need" to get it and that normally, engine temp doesnt effect power output... i guess i was thinking that air temp and oil temp were kinda similar...

edit: iam7head, i have the FAL a.k.a. Flex-A-Lite tranny cooler-thanks...


[Modified by accordexchange, 1:40 AM 3/18/2003]

iam7head

I think it's more of a extra protection then perfomance gain.

(HS ownage) me too

Accord94DX

Yuo crazy guys and your tranny coolers. I'm a paranoid bastard, and I feel for my poor lil oil pump when it has to pump through the turbo AND all those oil cooler lines and stuff....

poor little fella, just sitting there......not knowing whats going on........

*sniffle*

accordexchange

wait a minute-Accord94DX, what oil cooler do you have..?

teamlegacy

Who are you Iam7head?

AE: I say go for it. An extra precaution can't hurt anything.

accordexchange

"No matter what kind of oil you use, any type of engine needs a complete lubrication management system. Increased oil temperature will cause a presure drop and decrease the oil's ability to protect your engine. To protect your oil and engine, installation of an oil cooler is necessary. An oil cooler should do more than just cool the oil, but it should be as unrestrictive as possible to prevent a pressure drop across the core. The GReddy Oil Cooler achieves this high flow with the use of high caacity core utilizing an offset internal fin design. "

maybe i should've asked if anyone has an oil cooler on their accord and what kind they running... $100 B&M vs. $400-500 GReddy...... maybe the GReddy is more expensive because of the bolt-on fitment, name brand (jdm bling), stainless hoses, and the thermostat...

Accord94DX

I have an HKS oil heater with variable speed exhaust resonator built in.

accordexchange

Accord94DX

RotaryBzzz

FYI on aftermarket oil coolers....from a Rotary Rx7 perspective (factory engine oil coolers in every car sold). From my understanding, how the aftermarket differentiates from factory mazda is in how the oil circulates within the plumbing. Aftermarkets circulate where you have "geling" of oil layers further from the center and hot oil staying trapped flowing thru the center like this:

C=Most cooled
c=Less cooled
H=Hot

CCCCCC
CccccccC
CcHHHcC
CcHHHcC
CcHHHcC
CccccccC
CCCCCC

Factory Rx7 oil coolers have an internal design that encourages mixing of oil layers so that better cooling takes place:

CHCHCH
CHcHCH
CHcHCH
CHcHCH
CHCHCH

Quote:
The factory (rx7) oil coolers are the best we have ever found for cooling capacity. Virtually all of the aftermarket ones are not even remotely usable

http://www.mazdatrix.com/b6.htm

These guys are hard-core engine builders (mostly SCCA road racing) that are concerned about engine quality, longevity & power...FYI

Accord94DX

badass tech tip.

iam7head

yay or nay?

accordexchange

hey, i thought rx-7s where known for their mad overheating problems..? anyway, time to consider custom rx-7 oil cooler install..?