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Thanks man, this one is real comfy for sure. Check out the second picture, its got really good form!
Check out my new seat guys, I can't wait to put em in. Just waiting on the rail to arrive.
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I hope you plan on getting a roll bar before you put that seat in and drive it around.
i agree. buckets in a daily wont be the greatest but on track it is a night and day difference. i drove the sedan last year at wmhm i was gripping/holding the steering wheel to "keep" me in the seat with stock belts. i rode in a car running r comps this year at expo with stock seats/belts. through some corners i thought my weight/force was going to push the door open and i was going to be ejected. but with that said if you are going to run a bucket then i think you should be using atleast a 4pt harness..and a 5pt if you plan on de.ing the car. AND if you are running a harness then i would advise having a roll bar. the only problem ive had with a bucket is the aftermarket rails..at putnam t8 was the worst..the rails "slide/rotate" through the corner. weird feeling but i got used to it. i have new rails/base coming from a different company.
hrmmm.... I was actually planning on just running a stock harness. Call me a ricer or whatever but I know quite a few people just rocking a bucket seat and stock harness.... Im lost on this one.
I'm not calling you a ricer...just stating the obvious. My opinion on a fixed back seat is this. You roll over or get in a head-on accident...that seat is not gonna fold back or break away like a stock or reclineable seat would...therefore keeping you upright for whatever force may be coming down on you. If there is a roll bar in the car...atleast the roof is less-likely to cave in on you.
I'm not calling you a ricer...just stating the obvious. My opinion on a fixed back seat is this. You roll over or get in a head-on accident...that seat is not gonna fold back or break away like a stock or reclineable seat would...therefore keeping you upright for whatever force may be coming down on you. If there is a roll bar in the car...atleast the roof is less-likely to cave in on you.
damn. i saw hbk.s post on my phone in bed..got up just to state what you stated. damn. oh well and to elaborate on the harness side of things. alot of organizations are not allowing 4pt harnesses due to submarining but i still think for a road going car a 4pt would be better than a oe 3pt with the use of a bucket. with the rails you will be using you will be putting the buckle in a welded nut to the rail. well that lap belt now has to go over the leg bolsters. which will then cause a greater gap between your body and the belt. your mass is what pulls tension to keep you in place with a oe belt.
and just because "so and so did it" doesnt always make it right. you should know that by now.
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technically 'buckets' are single seats, as opposed to a bench.
and as for the conversation of the fixed back seat, I'm not sure if there's any good argument against it(the 'break away' seat back idea sounds good if it breaks away at the right time, but that could also be its downfall) the biggest problem would be the impact in that seat with the stock belts, they definately won't work on properly.
and as for the conversation of the fixed back seat, I'm not sure if there's any good argument against it(the 'break away' seat back idea sounds good if it breaks away at the right time, but that could also be its downfall) the biggest problem would be the impact in that seat with the stock belts, they definately won't work on properly.
this goes against my because so and so does it. but these are educated..highly educated with high financial implications if they are not the correct decisions. and auto manufacturers strive to keep liability costs as low as possible. whether it be personal injury or warranty costs. working for a manufacturer i can tell you they call things as small as speakers back to correct the problem and update the part so they dont have to dish the extra cash out for free warranty parts/labor.
but for the mass produced affordable vehicle. 99.9% of them come with reclining seats with a 3 point belt.
depending on the series but ALL race cars come with a fixed back seat with variations of bolsters to protect the driver. and ALL of these cars come with roll over protection whether it be a roll bar/cage in a dtm car to a roll hoop in an indycar.
the engineers designed it like this for a reason. once you change oe parts you need to take the precautions to keep you and your car safe.
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agreed. you won't have to worry about any slight changes in alignment then. not to mention you're going to have to take apart the front suspension again anyway.. atleast this way you gurantee your alignment settings haven't changed.
technically 'buckets' are single seats, as opposed to a bench.
and as for the conversation of the fixed back seat, I'm not sure if there's any good argument against it(the 'break away' seat back idea sounds good if it breaks away at the right time, but that could also be its downfall) the biggest problem would be the impact in that seat with the stock belts, they definately won't work on properly.
technically 'buckets' are single seats, as opposed to a bench.
and as for the conversation of the fixed back seat, I'm not sure if there's any good argument against it(the 'break away' seat back idea sounds good if it breaks away at the right time, but that could also be its downfall) the biggest problem would be the impact in that seat with the stock belts, they definately won't work on properly.



