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I was gonna pick up a full race bar. My car its set up with .5 Toe in front as you accelerate, the front wheels pull back which would 0 it out under acceleration. Camber on the other hand was like 1.5 due to not having a camber kit. Thanks for the info guys, i'm probably gonna get blox drag coil overs. Don't want to ride on stiff springs when I do street drive it.
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i haven't gotten into to many technical discussions in a while. so, i might get carried away. i also numbered the different questions for easier discussion.
1. you would have to check with progress to see what rates they could handle. my guess is that they picked a rate and designed the damper around that. so, my guess would be, you won't be able to go much higher than that.
but, i have a solution, nascar-ish if you will. you could source some long bumpstops or stack short ones and use those as "spring". the reason i say this is, you can jack the rear end of the car up at the track and throw them on. then when it is time to leave, you can simply remove them and drive back home, "comfortably".
2. scott pointed this out earlier. it is the dynamics of any car to lift the front under acceleration, which also is why you "nose dive" under throttle lift or braking.
i wouldn't say your front is "off", but i am surprised at that rate the car doesn't wheel hop. also remember, the car will react different given a "typical" street tire opposed to a drag radial or slick. the tire itself acts as a spring too, so given construction of a tire will cause different dynamics per tire.
i have told avijit this before. if i were to have a ff drag car, my alignment would look similar to this.
front toe: 0
front camber: around negative .5*
rear toe: zero or barely a fraction in.
rear camber: zero.
i also would get the front as low as possible without rubbing tires on body parts. and, to that, i see a lot of ff drag car with big slicks on the front and whatever on the rear. normally that causes the front of the car to be higher than the rear. as you mentioned before, when you get on the throttle the front lifts. well, the front is already high, so now it is acting as a "parachute" which will "help" keep the front up. the theory in my head says "noooooo" because you want the air over the car, not under. which could lead to flat floors, high downforce cars etc, but there my thoughts would not be the same. i am strictly speaking towards a ff civic in "stockish" form.
1. you would have to check with progress to see what rates they could handle. my guess is that they picked a rate and designed the damper around that. so, my guess would be, you won't be able to go much higher than that.
but, i have a solution, nascar-ish if you will. you could source some long bumpstops or stack short ones and use those as "spring". the reason i say this is, you can jack the rear end of the car up at the track and throw them on. then when it is time to leave, you can simply remove them and drive back home, "comfortably".
2. scott pointed this out earlier. it is the dynamics of any car to lift the front under acceleration, which also is why you "nose dive" under throttle lift or braking.
i wouldn't say your front is "off", but i am surprised at that rate the car doesn't wheel hop. also remember, the car will react different given a "typical" street tire opposed to a drag radial or slick. the tire itself acts as a spring too, so given construction of a tire will cause different dynamics per tire.
i have told avijit this before. if i were to have a ff drag car, my alignment would look similar to this.
front toe: 0
front camber: around negative .5*
rear toe: zero or barely a fraction in.
rear camber: zero.
i also would get the front as low as possible without rubbing tires on body parts. and, to that, i see a lot of ff drag car with big slicks on the front and whatever on the rear. normally that causes the front of the car to be higher than the rear. as you mentioned before, when you get on the throttle the front lifts. well, the front is already high, so now it is acting as a "parachute" which will "help" keep the front up. the theory in my head says "noooooo" because you want the air over the car, not under. which could lead to flat floors, high downforce cars etc, but there my thoughts would not be the same. i am strictly speaking towards a ff civic in "stockish" form.
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im back from the dead! yeah buddy!!!! im getting pumped the f up!!!! i should be sending money for my rpf1's next week, got my ad08's to throw on them, getting a go pro, brakes, and maybe a rear sway bar. that may end up waiting.
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Finally got someone paying my asking price for te's. Well It appears that way lol, he put some money down and is paying me the rest on christmas eve, what a nice present to myself
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lol that's dope. what color rpf1's did you get? i'm thinking about polishing mine. Unsure how I feel about black. They look good on avijit's car, I must not like them on my car because I have the center caps. Looks semi weird, but then again my car doesn't run and I haven't seen it outside with rpf1's. Its sad how much I actually see/drive my own car...
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Rpf1 is one of my all time favorite rims....some day i'll quit being cheap about rims......but I'd rather have a fast haggard looking car than a clean fast looking slow car....and since my car is a spare cash build, it'll take a while
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Avijit what size are those tires? 26s? .....I'm looking to sell mine possibly 24.5 is a little to tall for me....oh well ill see what i can manage on them