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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialKay
Bleeding brakes in a nutshell. Go.

P.S. Bleeding order-
1.Rear passenger.
2.Rear driver.
2.Front passenger.
3.Front driver.

right?
Can't remember offhand but just start farthest from the master cyl and go closer
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 11:16 PM
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Can't remember offhand but just start farthest from the master cyl and go closer
if you look at it is is following that manner. everyone has a way to bleed brakes, i personally tend to start furthest away from the master since those line will have the must air in them. speed bleeders are also something nice to have.
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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General rule of thumb when bleeding any brakes is start farthest from the master.

Especially with newer cars a lot of them have one way check valves for saftey in the prop valve. It'll feel like your brakes are bled but anything behind them won't get any hydraulic pressure past the check valves
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialKay
Bleeding brakes in a nutshell. Go.

P.S. Bleeding order-
1.Rear passenger.
2.Rear driver.
2.Front passenger.
3.Front driver.

right?
Incorrect. Kevin...the proper sequence for our Civic is:

1. Passenger Rear
2. Driver Front
3. Driver Rear
4. Passenger Front

I usually go around the car atleast three times.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cranberry
if you look at it is is following that manner. everyone has a way to bleed brakes, i personally tend to start furthest away from the master since those line will have the must air in them. speed bleeders are also something nice to have.
as you can see, there are several ways to bleed brakes. there are per oe spec, etc, but as you can see, everyone does it differently. but, one thing i won't do anymore is use power/speed bleeders. i did it one time because i was in a hurry. it was in the hatch, go figure, and the pedal felt like crap. i now always manual bleed, power bleed for a "regular" car is no big deal. also, along the track lines, i guess at wmhm5 a guy in a crx used a power bleeder. went out, appartently not checking his pedal going out. went straight into 3, no brakes, and ended up on his lid.


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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gabebauman
Incorrect. Kevin...the proper sequence for our Civic is:

1. Passenger Rear
2. Driver Front
3. Driver Rear
4. Passenger Front

I usually go around the car atleast three times.
how is this incorrect? i would like to hear that. i have never had one issue with my brakes not having pressure. everyone has their way of doing things. i use a vacuum pump for a good 5 mins on each valve and then go thru the pump 10x hold pedal down and open valve method.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cranberry
how is this incorrect? i would like to hear that. i have never had one issue with my brakes not having pressure. everyone has their way of doing things. i use a vacuum pump for a good 5 mins on each valve and then go thru the pump 10x hold pedal down and open valve method.
Thats what the Helms says, I understand that rule of thumb of "farthest to closest" but its not like that for all cars.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Egezzy
as you can see, there are several ways to bleed brakes. there are per oe spec, etc, but as you can see, everyone does it differently. but, one thing i won't do anymore is use power/speed bleeders. i did it one time because i was in a hurry. it was in the hatch, go figure, and the pedal felt like crap. i now always manual bleed, power bleed for a "regular" car is no big deal. also, along the track lines, i guess at wmhm5 a guy in a crx used a power bleeder. went out, appartently not checking his pedal going out. went straight into 3, no brakes, and ended up on his lid.


you had bad luck with them? friends hatch has had them for years and his pedal feels great. idk i dont have them on my whip. i use the hand vacuum pump all around then do a quick pedal pump method.
ps car looks good.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SHG_Felliphe
Thats what the Helms says, I understand that rule of thumb of "farthest to closest" but its not like that for all cars.
helms says alot of things. does it make it wrong thu?
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SHG_Felliphe
Thats what the Helms says, I understand that rule of thumb of "farthest to closest" but its not like that for all cars.

Not farthest on how far the caliper or drum* is, but how far the fluid has to travel.

Depends on how the cars prop valve is set up
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cranberry
how is this incorrect? i would like to hear that. i have never had one issue with my brakes not having pressure. everyone has their way of doing things. i use a vacuum pump for a good 5 mins on each valve and then go thru the pump 10x hold pedal down and open valve method.
Using a vaccum pump is a whole different ballgame. Think about how hydraulic systems work.

If your bleeding them manually its pushing the fluid in. If your using a pump your sucking it in
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cranberry
helms says alot of things. does it make it wrong thu?
that is what i was trying to say. everyone does it different, i was taught farthest to closest. a buddy who is a master tech for honda starts lf, rf, rr, lr. i know 2 other techs that have their own methods as well. yet, i have never seen a car come back for pedal feel. i thought i knew how to tie my shoes, until yesterday. i learned the end all be all, no more untied shoes method. but, was the original way wrong? no they have stayed tied for 28 years with some issues along the way, but it still worked.
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Originally Posted by N/A
Using a vaccum pump is a whole different ballgame. Think about how manual handjob systems work.

If your bleeding it manually its pushing the fluid in. If your using a pump your sucking it out
true, no one likes blue *****.
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Originally Posted by cranberry
maybe he doesnt want to spend the money on seats?????
But he has money for a cage? Bucket without cage is one thing but cage without a bucket
https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-type-r-8/autopower-rollbar-pictures-after-violent-rollover-incident-1649195/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-acura-28/autopower-cage-saves-my-friends-lives-pics-inside-1495699/
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Says the fella with a fixed-back-bucket in his hatch with NO roll bar..........
All I know is that stock seats "breaking in half at the hinge in a crash" is an internet myth. I have never seen or heard of that happen.
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Originally Posted by N/A
Using a vaccum pump is a whole different ballgame. Think about how hydraulic systems work.

If your bleeding them manually its pushing the fluid in. If your using a pump your sucking it in
yeah i perfer to do it that way now over sitting in the pumping for ever. i go thru and it sucks air out of the system it was a cheap buy at vato zone and it sure as hell was worth it. prevents me from draggin the lady into it if i have no friends around.
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Originally Posted by N/A
Not farthest on how far the caliper or drum* is, but how far the fluid has to travel.

Depends on how the cars prop valve is set up
Yeah exactly. Its not his method is wrong, but that sequence is "right".
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true, no one likes blue *****.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SHG_Felliphe
But he has money for a cage? Bucket without cage is one thing but cage without a bucket
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1649195
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1495699


All I know is that stock seats "breaking in half at the hinge in a crash" is an internet myth. I have never seen or heard of that happen.
guys lived thru that crash i dont get your point. on that one. your car your choice. maybe he doesnt want a bucket seat or a srd. so whens someone going to give me the proof its wrong to bleed the brakes like that? just cause helms says to do it one way doesnt make another wrong. oil companies want you to think your oil goes bad after 3000 miles when it really last longer. you know how often i would be changing my oil then? every 2 and a half weeks. its bad enough i do one every month, sometimes push it to a month and a half. just saying.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SHG_Felliphe
But he has money for a cage? Bucket without cage is one thing but cage without a bucket
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1649195
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1495699


All I know is that stock seats "breaking in half at the hinge in a crash" is an internet myth. I have never seen or heard of that happen.
i clicked your first link. good thing you used a source to show the "myth" to be correct. possibly reading the source before you post it would be a good idea, so you don't say "i have never seen or heard of that happen". well per your source, it started to happen, but a rollbar got in the way. also, there is a difference between a rollbar and a cage. cage keeps you in, ie see a bird or a dog, have you ever seen a dog stay in a "rollbar". no, ok, glad that is over. also, a roll bar does just that, when the car rolls it is there to decrease the likelihood of a roof collapse. guess what, with a fixed back and the absence of a roll bar, your head is the "roll bar". well, in your case the top of the seat would be the "roll bar" because you would be ducking out of the way.

Originally Posted by George Knighton
Well, if you do get one for your street car, make sure it's well padded. From the way the car's ripped up, I would guess that it's entirely likely that some of the injuries they sustained might have been caused by contact with the rollbar.

The seat squabs bent just as they were designed, and this increased the likelihood that they made contact with the rollbar at the height of the most violent part of the crash.

The way the squabs bent, it seems to me possible that both heads made contact with the rollbar.



However, there's no doubt the rollbar seems to have greatly improved the chance of survivability in this particular accident.

I'm posting this just for the information about how the Autopower unit actually performs in a violent rollover. If you read the original thread, you will realise that there were some serious life-changing, horrible injuries sustained in the accident, and you will also realise that the car was involved in some patently unsafe activities at the time.
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Originally Posted by cranberry
oil companies want you to think your oil goes bad after 3000 miles when it really last longer. just saying.
lol. so true, also the quick lube shops. most service manuals that come with the cars now will tell you different.

or one that took off here. nitrogen in your tires, they sell that stuff like wild fire. which "regular" air is 78% nitrogen to begin with.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Egezzy
i clicked your first link. good thing you used a source to show the "myth" to be correct. possibly reading the source before you post it would be a good idea, so you don't say "i have never seen or heard of that happen". well per your source, it started to happen, but a rollbar got in the way. also, there is a difference between a rollbar and a cage. cage keeps you in, ie see a bird or a dog, have you ever seen a dog stay in a "rollbar". no, ok, glad that is over. also, a roll bar does just that, when the car rolls it is there to decrease the likelihood of a roof collapse. guess what, with a fixed back and the absence of a roll bar, your head is the "roll bar". well, in your case the top of the seat would be the "roll bar" because you would be ducking out of the way.
and on other notes its another reason why im really leaning on getting into auto x so that way im in a some what safe place compared to the mountain roads or back country roads that may have unknown things ie like a deer or the random sand or dirt patch. i've really toned down from how i use to be. they had to be going fast for all that to happen. My friend rolled his car and guess what his seats did just that and he's alive to this day.
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Originally Posted by Egezzy
lol. so true, also the quick lube shops. most service manuals that come with the cars now will tell you different.

or one that took off here. nitrogen in your tires, they sell that stuff like wild fire. which "regular" air is 78% nitrogen to begin with.
lol i so forgot that one! hahahaaa costco is big on that ****. It makes it lighter thu. lol improving mpg. no it doesnt cause with the dunlops i just got pretty sure the place claimed to use it, i still avg about 30-32 over all since im in and out of the city.
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Originally Posted by cranberry
and on other notes its another reason why im really leaning on getting into auto x so that way im in a some what safe place compared to the mountain roads or back country roads that may have unknown things ie like a deer or the random sand or dirt patch. i've really toned down from how i use to be. they had to be going fast for all that to happen. My friend rolled his car and guess what his seats did just that and he's alive to this day.
yeah back in the day, i remember a night. where there were 4 deer right next to the road and at 80mph, that was sketchy. i ended up seeing 3 more deer later that night as well. glad that "habit" has passed, but it was kind of like skating or bmx. always out trying to find a new "spot", i remember one night i tried to do an invite thing. didn't work out, too many people talk. i had like 30 some odd cars behind me, so i didn't show any good spots/roads. then all of them were always wanting to go run 46 or "brown county".
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Originally Posted by Egezzy
yeah back in the day, i remember a night. where there were 4 deer right next to the road and at 80mph, that was sketchy. i ended up seeing 3 more deer later that night as well. glad that "habit" has passed, but it was kind of like skating or bmx. always out trying to find a new "spot", i remember one night i tried to do an invite thing. didn't work out, too many people talk. i had like 30 some odd cars behind me, so i didn't show any good spots/roads. then all of them were always wanting to go run 46 or "brown county".
yeah i remember the nights of driving around looking for good places. i use to drive to the mountains at night so i could be alone just me and the hatch. like you said glad that is behind me. i am pumped up for nov 19th-20th
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