^^ I'm not bashing but that really sounds more like Driver's error.

I overcooked my Azenis at the AutoX yesterday too on my 3rd run. It was totally a driver's error on my part. I was completely overdriving the car. I slowed down on my 4th run and won my class.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^ I'm not bashing but that really sounds more like Driver's error.

I overcooked my Azenis at the AutoX yesterday too on my 3rd run. It was totally a driver's error on my part. I was completely overdriving the car. I slowed down on my 4th run and won my class.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

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I overcooked my Azenis at the AutoX yesterday too on my 3rd run. It was totally a driver's error on my part. I was completely overdriving the car. I slowed down on my 4th run and won my class.</TD></TR></TABLE>

shake n bake rookie

 

slip or grip

 

don't know how I forgot to mention you
you were the first one I asked about tires and your set ups/fitments after the sway bar

but ya I have two yoko s.drives and want to get something better for the other two to put up front rather than just getting the matching set

so I think I "narrowed" it down to:

a. Falken Azenis
b. BF G-force KWDs
c. Advan A048
d. Potenza RE01R/RE070

but also heard great things about the Hancook RS2s, Dunlop Star Specs, and now the Toyos

seems to describe exactly what I'm looking for in a tire
also something that I will last a bit and won't have to replace right away after only a couple of uses...I'd like to replace them as often or less than my drag slicks (expensive as well)
then again the azenis I can get for cheap so it won't be so bad if they wear fast...

but ya, pretty much came to the conclusion the azenis are the best value for performance and a good "entry" level "sticky" tire to try out, get used to, and learn with

i've heard over and over the problem in the rain, which many other "peformance" tires seem to lack in that area as well, but its no problem since I avoid driving in the rain as much as possible and if I get caught I take it easy....

which G-forces were you talking about? the sport of the kdws?

thanks for the input btw

damn...in a specific order too...real nice and helpful
from least to most grippy right? I would assume so cause why else would you change from azenis to XS's if you didn't want more grip lol

I understand why not to run R compounds on the street (same mentality as why I don't run full slicks and skinnies on the street either lol but not to that extreme)
thanks for the websites too...looking for someplace to get the best deal

R compounds would only go on a set of spare rims only for the track that I change and use only there (rotas? )

well your car seems to be more of a majority of track than street (aka "streetable"/street legal track/race car)
which is the opposite of me with mainly on the street for daily and "spirited" driving and occassional event, which I'm just starting to venture away from drag racing (where my street wheels and tires don't matter) into auto-x for the first time (noob), hence why I'm trying to prepare and get knowledge from experienced people

but ya, with my stock base model only pushing out 160whp (but 150ft-lbs tq) adn 2400lbs with me in it, so azenis or any other performance street tire/non r-compound might suffice for me...plus the fact that I'm a noob

i'm sure you must feel like the man driving r compounds on the street tho

damn, another blue cap on bronze and black lugs

black just seems so old/boring now



want a set quite badly to be able to switch it up as I please according to my mood (like I do with my **** *****, ***** or billet, and want to do with my steering wheels...got the suede and want leather which I won't feel as bad about holding and fading as the suede )

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^ I'm not bashing but that really sounds more like Driver's error.

I overcooked my Azenis at the AutoX yesterday too on my 3rd run. It was totally a driver's error on my part. I was completely overdriving the car. I slowed down on my 4th run and won my class.</TD></TR></TABLE>


The tires just simply don't work with my setup. Or at least not if you want to get the full potential of the car. Granted my car is way lighter than most of your cars. I'll never auto-x again without R comps on that car. The tires once overcooked were trash. When I left the auto-x I was 1/4 throttle in third, and it was like I was driving on ice. Once cooled down they were better, but still junk. I think I expected too much out of those tires.

 

will, just go to costco, they'll hook you up.

 

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lol, we don't have costco's around here (nor sam's club), just BJ's

thats where I got my BFs for my winter beater lol

but seriously we got a townfairtire, which might have some good deals/prices

 

tire rack

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's really interesting, Honda uses a TON of European and American people in all their ad campaigns and promotional materials, the world over (but especially in the Asian/Pacific market).

NOFX has a massive book on the history of Honda, and one of the pictures was a 1987 Nova-S scooter ad from Thailand that actually had Thai people in it. It was just an odd thing to see (for a Honda add).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well they did have Brad Pit and Michael J Fox do Japanese commercials. I think its just because other cultures want to be other ANOTHER culture so bad. The same reason we all want to the jdm/ukdm/edm **** and thats why you see all them sporting crazy extreme transformer body kits.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fresh'86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are those Mugen NR wheels on your car in your display pic? If not, that would be a good start.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good eye. No their some replicas I wanna have fun with and polish the lips out on. I plan on getting the mirrored NRs. But I want to throw as much security on as possible before money starts going into her.

 

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shake n bake rookie </TD></TR></TABLE>
HAHA. I'll slingshot engage on that azz.

 

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but ya, pretty much came to the conclusion the azenis are the best value for performance and a good "entry" level "sticky" tire to try out, get used to, and learn with </TD></TR></TABLE>
The Kumho and Dunlops are in the same price point as the Axenis as well.

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damn...in a specific order too...real nice and helpful
from least to most grippy right? I would assume so cause why else would you change from azenis to XS's if you didn't want more grip lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
Correct. Even thought the jury is still out wether the Kumhos are faster than the Azenis but for right now we'll say they are equals. Dunlops are def better than both.
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R compounds would only go on a set of spare rims only for the track that I change and use only there (rotas? )</TD></TR></TABLE>
No shame in that. I do the same. Rims are a wear item at the track.


EDIT: I forgot too mention. Along with rims being a wear item. Also when you upgrade your brake pads for AutoX/track and they start throwing pounds of corrosive dust at your rims. This is exactly why I don't own a set of Mugen rims......yet. I have 6 sets of rims and a Mugen aint 1.



Modified by get RIGHT at 12:25 PM 10/20/2008

 

I have been running Kuhmo's this year for autox.


And here is a shot running the 32's at Road ATL. A guy came up to me and said his brother has the same Rota's I have. I got a nice little inner laugh at that.

 

LMAO. ^^ V710s?

 

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The Kumho and Dunlops are in the same price point as the Azenis as well.

Correct. Even thought the jury is still out wether the Kumhos are faster than the Azenis but for right now we'll say they are equals. Dunlops are def better than both.

No shame in that. I do the same. Rims are a wear item at the track.

EDIT: I forgot too mention. Along with rims being a wear item. Also when you upgrade your brake pads for AutoX/track and they start throwing pounds of corrosive dust at your rims. This is exactly why I don't own a set of Mugen rims......yet. I have 6 sets of rims and a Mugen aint 1.
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wow, than silly question, why not go with dunlops? lol

ya the track give quite a beat on your parts, cosmetic and performance wise

I figure that about the corrosive brake dust...which is why I figure HPS is more suited for me than HP+

thats one reason I'm glad I have bronze versus white like I wanted...they are practically brake dust colored and don't show it as bad as white would, which would bother the hell out of me and have to clean them all the time

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dEXstar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have been running Kuhmo's this year for autox.
And here is a shot running the 32's at Road ATL.

A guy came up to me and said his brother has the same Rota's I have. I got a nice little inner laugh at that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nice
guess kuhmo's are the choice of auto-xer's than if not azenis

LOL, its bound to happen at some point
just waiting for someone to ask me where I got the caps for my circuit 8s

 

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wow, than silly question, why not go with dunlops? lol

ya the track give quite a beat on your parts, cosmetic and performance wise

I figure that about the corrosive brake dust...which is why I figure HPS is more suited for me than HP+
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The only downside to the Dunlops right now is their sizes for our cars. They are only offering a 15" size that fits. Whereas the Kumhos or Azenis
offer a wider range of options. When put into that context the Briddgestone REO1R really shine even thought they are more expensive.
I'm not confusing you, am I?

I would really recommend HP+ over HPS. Here is a great link on the subject.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2232945

 

Well I just got a text from Mr Hungpham....and I'm sure others have to. Looks like he's still working on getting the issue worked out on the shipment. The Container is here in the US, and he will keep us updated once he finds out more information. As of now he doesn't have a "exact" date of release.

 

^^ HOORAY!!!!!!

 

same here..talked to hung for a bit also

 

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slappy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I just got a text from Mr Hungpham....and I'm sure others have to. Looks like he's still working on getting the issue worked out on the shipment. The Container is here in the US, and he will keep us updated once he finds out more information. As of now he doesn't have a "exact" date of release. </TD></TR></TABLE>


That is good news for sure. For Hung!

 

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The only downside to the Dunlops right now is their sizes for our cars. They are only offering a 15" size that fits. Whereas the Kumhos or Azenis
offer a wider range of options. When put into that context the Briddgestone REO1R really shine even thought they are more expensive.
I'm not confusing you, am I?

I would really recommend HP+ over HPS. Here is a great link on the subject.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2232945</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahh..i think i've already been told that but forgot again (too much info to remember)
makes perfect sense now...they don't come in 16" friendly sizes but the others do

think I was told you at least have to run a 225 , which happens to be the limit/biggest size allowed I believe?

I really like the RE01Rs ever since I saw the CR with the RE70s (was told the Rs are the same "class" but better/best)

oh really...i think i read through that thread before when I was looking to but, but never got a true answer/result and it seemed undecided (like the case with kuhmos and azenis i'm sure and same thing with catch can/pvc/vc arrangement for a K-series...still don't know the true right answer and ongoing debate over)

 

i drilled some holes in my mugen lip yesterday

 

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think I was told you at least have to run a 225 , which happens to be the limit/biggest size allowed I believe? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I am guessing you are refferring to AutoX classes? The ST class in particular.
That would be true but dont feel that you have to have the widest tires possible to be competitve at AutoX. If I had to choose between max size or max grip, I would take max grip every time.
For example: A 215 Azenis is slower than a 195 Durezza star spec z1.
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I really like the RE01Rs ever since I saw the CR with the RE70s (was told the Rs are the same "class" but better/best)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep, the RE01Rs are def better. The RE070R is a run flat tire which means they are going to be heavy for your needs.


I can help with a catch on a B but I have no idea about the K although I bet they are the same, basically.