JICEK9

ok- here is the current mods
d16y8
jackson racing supercharger currently at 6lb
intake
header
test pipe
cat-back
fuel pump
safc

my question is, would it be better, as far as reliabilty, overall hp gains, and everything else considerd to buy the ZEX street/strip cam and springs or a 9lb pulley? Both would be dynoed and tuned using the safc after the install.


Modified by JICEK9 at 10:10 AM 11/21/2003

JICEK9

12 people have viewed and no response???

all you have to do is click on one you don't even have to right anything if you don't want

maddog20

motorvations motorsports pulley. I heard they're great w/ JRSC. Also IM Gitwidit on here he has alot of experiance w/ the charger.

Boltz

the reason people havent responded is because they probably have no idea.... im sure both would make pretty decent power gains but i would personally go with a bigger pulley to start with. with more boost you will make more power accross the whole powerband where as with a cam you can only tune for low end torque OR high end hp... point being is that with the cam you will most likely loose some low end in sacrafice for higher peak hp, whereas more boost would give you power across the whole powerband, btw; when do you reach full boost? never been in a jrsc car......

Johnyquest

I'd go with the cam, since once you realize the JR supercharger is boring and go turbo, it will still be useful

Johnyquest

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Superchargers make 'full' boost the instant you floor the throttle....! That's the point

JICEK9

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get bent! why did you even reply? I don't want this to turn into a sc vs turbo or d vs b debate! some idiot always replies with some **** that jacks my threads. Tommorrow I'll check this thread and it will be 6 pages of why a turbo b is way better then my sc d series!

JICEK9

sorry... I had to vent

please keep the HELPFUL replies coming

JICEK9

please more help

underrated

iTrader: (3)

You may want to look into a different cam. Maybe one more boost specific. The zex cam is good for n/a. I think you could get a good boost grind from exospeed or even Endyn. With the money you'd save on an exospeed cam you can get the pulley also.

JICEK9

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thanks I was wondering about that. Zex told me it worked great with n/a and f/i and I was kinda ! thanks for the info more please

JICEK9

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thanks I was wondering about that. Zex told me it worked great with n/a and f/i and I was kinda ! thanks for the info more please</TD></TR></TABLE>
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p0gi

the zex cam was designed for forced induction use. It was basically designed for use with thier nitrous systems.

kid-honda

iTrader: (2)

I would do the cam, then later up the boost.
The cam might be able to help you on the top end were your SC starts to fall off.

JICEK9

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The cam might be able to help you on the top end were your SC starts to fall off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
In order to up the boost should I be getting a boost timing ignition?

maddog20

Yep you need to retard timing.
If you have your heart set on a cam look into compcams stage 1 it is recommended for f/i.
Your money is better spent on a pulley and Hondata.

JICEK9

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This is what I was looking at now in addition to the pulley.

This is a kit they have come up with just for the JRSC. It's preprogrammed and at 10psi puts 200hp and 160lb/ft of tq.
http://hondata.com/jrsc_big_boost.html

Here is the only bad side $1300 for Hondata.
http://www.mossperformance.com...35973
But even at $1300 I think it is a pretty decent kit. It includes s200 Hondata, Injectors and all the software is preprogrammed
It sounds like a pretty good deal What do you think?

maddog20

Yea that sounds like a good deal.
You can also add the nitrous option which would be really cool on a SC.
The reason it is more expensive is the Hondata ECU will be socketed for OBD2.
Also check out http://www.Wiredspeed.com good deals on Hondata and Injectors.

JICEK9

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yea, and the car is allready on the bottle so that wouldn't be anything new
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really? my car is allready converted to obd1. That won't be a problem, will it?

JICEK9

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really? my car is allready converted to obd1. That won't be a problem, will it?
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would I need the one for the 92-95 civic for $1130.00? if so, cool!

maddog20

You then just buy Hondata for OBD1 and injectors w/obd2 clips. I would have custom tune made for it. You could contact Payn Technologies there are located in Michigan. This would most likely be a better route to take. Since it would be tuned to you car. It might also be cheaper. The results will be lower since he uses a Mustang Dyno which is usually 15% lower then Dynojet. But it is said to provide a better tune.

JICEK9

thanks maddog, anybody elses input would be greatlt appreciated.

JICEK9

I thinks Hondata is the way to go