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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 09:08 PM
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would this work well as an intercooler for it woul be going into a 2.0 L turbo project, BTW is from a Ford Powerstroke diesel

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1874119676

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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 09:34 PM
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looks like you could but would need new endtanks welded
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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and you would mount that where?
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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Just mount it on your hood
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 01:52 AM
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i remember somebody on this board who bought an intercooler like that, cut it in half and had new endtanks welded on. It took up the entire front end of his 3rd gen integra. it was an f350 intercooler.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 01:58 AM
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Why would he need new endtanks? Or is it a space issue? I'm trying to learn all I can about FMIC's since I have to find, and install mine on my own. Nobody in my area has any FMIC experience (other than shops).

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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 05:02 AM
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that looks kinda thin
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 06:13 AM
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How is a thinner intercooler better?
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 06:24 AM
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He's a man named afro puff.....don't judge him!
Volvo Intercoolers rock!
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 06:25 AM
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im using a third of one of those,mine is only 6 inches tall,a guy cut the large core into 3 pieces and welded new end tanks on them,its 3 inches think so its not thin at all,it is 30 inches long so it was tough to front mount.if you buy it ,find someone who can weld aluminum,get two made ou of that one,sell the other one and make your money back.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 06:34 AM
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im using a third of one of those,mine is only 6 inches tall,a guy cut the large core into 3 pieces and welded new end tanks on them,its 3 inches think so its not thin at all,it is 30 inches long so it was tough to front mount.if you buy it ,find someone who can weld aluminum,get two made ou of that one,sell the other one and make your money back.
thanks for the good info, but how did you go about cutting it ? and how did you cut it so there are no leaks, oh and one more thing did you make the end tanks custom or buy them somwhere and do the end tanks have to be from alluminum or can the be made from steel?


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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 06:41 AM
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For the same volumes, thinner is better than thicker because it presents a larger "cooling" surface area. As the cooling air passes through the ic it warms up and as it warms up, its capacity as a heat sink drops. With a thin ic the air isn't getting warmed up as much as opposed to a thick ic where by the time it reaches the back it can't absorb anymore heat. That's the theory anyways.

A nice experiment would be to compare equal volume/style (bar & plate, tube/fin) ic's with different frontal areas and examine the pressure and temp drops.

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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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don't think there is a way to weld aluminum to steel... two different alloys
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:17 AM
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ok so is this what it would kind of look like, again how do i cut it and how do i prevent leaks on top if i cut it there



and could i ut them exactly in half hrizontally and make the core twice as think since im making new end tanks?
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 09:00 AM
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can't you just weld an aluminum plate that runs across the top?
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 09:10 AM
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hehe, i should gank the IC offf my turbo deisiel at work, and sell that shiot on ebay, lol
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 09:14 AM
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Those are a pretty good intercooler to use, but they are BIG. My friend installed one in his mustang without cutting it down at all, and it went from the bottom of his bumper to almost the hood.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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does anyone have any info on cutting this beast to size?

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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 10:06 AM
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i thought you cut them and then had an aluminum plate welded to it to seal it.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 10:07 AM
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ok so is this what it would kind of look like, again how do i cut it and how do i prevent leaks on top if i cut it there



and could i ut them exactly in half hrizontally and make the core twice as think since im making new end tanks?
the part you have in green can be cut with a simple hacksaw if needed,no air flows through there,it is just thin fans or blades like on your radiator,they disapate heat,air only flows through the bars,so you cut it on the fins.as far as the welding,take it to someone who can weld aluminum,it will not be cheap,but get them to make that one into two so you can sell the other one to make your money back.they should be able to make endtanks with some sheets of aluminum,then weld them to the outside of the old endtanks,its pretty easy if you get one in front of you,you will see what im talking about.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 10:17 AM
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You want the thickest intercooler you can possible find. In real world applications, the thicker the core the better. If you look at pwr intercooler cores, they are 3" thick compared to spearco's that are only 2" thick. The effiency rating on the pwr intercoolers is much better, even when compared the tube and fin style of the spearco's (most are bar and plate, usually less effiecient). Take a look at any serious race car that uses air/air style intercooler and they thick, tall and short. Most spearco's are 2x6x24" for civics/integras. PWR's are 3"x8x22".


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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 10:32 AM
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thanks for the help but i have to clarify one more thing

do i cut the old end tanks off? and then weld the new ones on?

and instead of making two and selling one could i cut the intercooler into 2 equal peices and put them like in front of eahc other and make the end tanks twice as thick like this :

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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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my dimensions would be:

30 inches across

9 inches high

4 inches thick
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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You might want to cut it down to 22", 30" is way to long to be efficient. It might seem like the bigger the better, but length is a major factor in the efficiency of the intercooler. 20-22" is about the optimum length.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 10:56 AM
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ok if i were to cut it to 20-22 inches how would i cut accross wouldent that wreck the lines that the air flows through? this is already alot of work yet still cuting the other way i see no point in it
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