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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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I finally have finished my build and i havent drivin it yet until i get tuned... what should i be looking for when i the dyno anyone have a similar setup ?

Precision 880cc injectors
CM stage 3 clutch
BLITZ BOV
Blitz SBC i-D boost controller


Intercooler
26" x 12" x 3"

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Garrett t3/t04e 60 trim w/ .63 a/r

Drag turbo manifold
tiAl 38 mm wastegate

3" exhaust with no cat
walbro 255 fuel pump

b16a2 81.5mm
Stock sleeves
JE 9.0:1 pistons
ITR valvetrain
eagle rods
all new bearings gaskets
ITR tranny w/ lsd



Im gonig to running 20 psi on RACE gas..
and 15 on 94 pump gas


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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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id say maybe 450whp

depending on fuel management and tuning
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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chipped ecu..
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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what kind of cams?
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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stock b16 w/ itr valvetrain.. sorry forgot
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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I'll guess 425 WHP @ 20 psi, and 350 @ 15.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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be better off w/ auto cams or gsr ..if u wana keep it simple
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jmcmil6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">be better off w/ auto cams or gsr ..if u wana keep it simple</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've never seen ANYTHING that shows the automatic B16 cams to be bigger than the manual B16 cams. Auto LS cams are smaller than stick LS cams, it's the same for virtually every car maker out there, there is no reason for auto B16 cams to be bigger. And while we're on that subject, he'd be better off to get ITR/CTR cams off the bat instead of moving to GSR's.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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for the amount of gains.. ill just stick with my b16 cams...


im hoping to run a mid 11 with mysetup
i have 24" slicks too
hopefully i can reach it
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crazyimport &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for the amount of gains.. ill just stick with my b16 cams...
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http://forums.evans-tuning.com...=2341

A 25% gain in torque at 2000 RPM's and as much as a 30 ft-lb gain in the mid range isn't worth it?
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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the guy i know barely made 400whp with a b16 and that same turbo at 20psi on c16.

jg edelbrock manifold, equal lenght exhaust manifold, 3" downpipe, low comp b16, stock head. so dont get too excited
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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id be more then happy with 400 whp
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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ive been wanting to ask a similar question tell me what u guys think i might get it will be running in a few weeks just waiting on the head and some misc ****.

sleeved gsr 84mm
9 to 1's
eagle rods
balaced and blue'd
headwork by portflow
revhard springs & retainers
gsr cams
victor X IM
str 70mm TB
MSD SCI
hytech manifold
3 inch DP
RC 1,000's
pt67 p trim turbo
water-----&gt;air IC
tial WG and BOV
tuned with s200

i think thats it but the guy who is going to be tuning my car thinks were gunna be pushing 17-18 lbs on pump gas but that may be different we wont know till we get it on the dyno. i want to hit 500hp on pump gas but i dont think it will quite get there but i guess well see what do u guys think????
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mattcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive been wanting to ask a similar question tell me what u guys think i might get it will be running in a few weeks just waiting on the head and some misc ****.

sleeved gsr 84mm
9 to 1's
eagle rods
balaced and blue'd
headwork by portflow
revhard springs & retainers
gsr cams
victor X IM
str 70mm TB
MSD SCI
hytech manifold
3 inch DP
RC 1,000's
pt67 p trim turbo
water-----&gt;air IC
tial WG and BOV
tuned with s200

i think thats it but the guy who is going to be tuning my car thinks were gunna be pushing 17-18 lbs on pump gas but that may be different we wont know till we get it on the dyno. i want to hit 500hp on pump gas but i dont think it will quite get there but i guess well see what do u guys think???? </TD></TR></TABLE>


u should be able to break 500 on 17-18lbs no problem. i have simialr setup just air to air IC, 83mm motor, no headwork and did 460 on 14lbs (95 degree day no cam gear adjustment)
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Default Re: WHP expectations ? (crazyimport)

Id say 360-410 with your stock cams. To run mid 11's 300whp flat would be more than enough. (as long as your car isnt a pig)
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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EK h/b ...
i think i will hit about 410 on race gas
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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Default Re: WHP expectations ? (crazyimport)

kewl, if this tells you anything my friend has an EK w/ an LSvtec that makes 400whp. He runs 11.1 or 11.2 i believe with a 125mph trap. So like i said.. 300 and decent driving will still be 11's i'm sure

EDIT: w/ 20psi on a drag kit

and me saying "300" meaning, even if you dont hit your goal for some reason, you should still be in the 11's like your 1/4 goals you have listed
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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thats sweet... but elevations here in canada always make times worse..
guy is hitting about 390 whp in his gsr turbo and he's running high 11's on slicks...
so im aiming for 11.5 - 11.9 and im happy
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crazyimport &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats sweet... but elevations here in canada always make times worse..
guy is hitting about 390 whp in his gsr turbo and he's running high 11's on slicks...
so im aiming for 11.5 - 11.9 and im happy </TD></TR></TABLE>

true true, good luck man
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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mid to high 12's all day on street tires is a realistic goal for 400whp in a daily driven car. thats more speed and power than most should ever need
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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400 if your lucky on b16 cams
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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thanx T4eg im not trying to get my hopes up it should be running and driving in about 4 weeks or so.... there will be a video of the dyno and all cant wait its like x-mas but i know what im getting and cant have it yet
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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i'll be sure to post my dyno results next week
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