99TurboBlue

Yes, I have searched and found results for pretty much just stock cars. Stock GSR, LS, B16, and so on and so forth. But, I just got back from Xenocron after my tune and I put down 230whp with my fuel prump that was shot so we couldnt turn up the boost anymore. I replaced the fuel pump yesterday, and now I plan on driving to Innovative to get a street tune and turn up the boost ( I don't feel like driving 5 hours away to a dyno, and Mike is still waiting for his at Innovative. ) Is it safe to tune my turbo this way anyways? Here's my set-up below.

JDM B16A Block
B16 Head
Turbonetic T3/T04E Turbo
Wiseco 9:1 Compression Pistons
Golden Eagle Rods
STOCK Sleeves
ARP Studs
ITR Cams
Unorthodox Cam Gears
RC 750cc Injectors
Greddy BOV
Tial 38mm Wastegate
Ram Horn Manifold
3" Downpipe straight to my 3" Apexi Exhaust
255 Walbro Fuel Pump
GM 3 Bar Map Sensor
OBD1 P72 ECU
GSR Tranny w/ Type R LSD3
ACT 6 Puck Clutch

So I want to get around 350 to the wheels. Is it safe to say that I will have no problem in doing this? It's shitty I can't do it on a dyno to find out exact power increase with each boost increase. Like I said, I made 230whp on 9lbs of boost. What you guys think my car can hold up to? Don't tell me 30psi, I was hopeing somehwere near 16-18 lbs of boost? Too much? Thanks in advance for your replies.

Schister66

you may not think its worth it to drive 5hrs to the dyno, but it takes a lot longer than that to earn the money for a rebuild and then rebuild the engine....i have to drive 4.5hrs to get to my dyno and its totally worth it IMO....

Also what are the specs on that turbo?? We could figure out an approx power goal based on the specs if you'd give them...

99B16Si

Contact golden eagle to see how much their rods can hold

Schister66

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nice catch....i bet they'd be surprised to hear from you

99TurboBlue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you may not think its worth it to drive 5hrs to the dyno, but it takes a lot longer than that to earn the money for a rebuild and then rebuild the engine....i have to drive 4.5hrs to get to my dyno and its totally worth it IMO....

Also what are the specs on that turbo?? We could figure out an approx power goal based on the specs if you'd give them...</TD></TR></TABLE>

is it not safe to turn up the boost with a street tune??? oh man, and those dyno pulls scare the **** out of me lol. It sounds like its gonna blow any second when it's on there haha.

Schister66

oh i hated dynoing....i was so stressed out the first time i went...my car actually blew a piece of charge piping off while i was behind it and it began to run really rich....When tons of smoke pour from your exhaust at high rpm and then the car quickly decellerates, it tends to make you **** yourself....

I would bring it back up to the tuner. You have a good engine setup and i hope you keep it that way...

nasteboyii

how does this sound
t3t4 e60 57 63 trim
b16 w/ross pistons crower rods (and eagles now)
stock sleeves, built by me
ITR Intake cam/gsr exhuast
lovefab ram horn w/3inch down pipe full exhaust
255hp fp,1000rc jectors aem fpr/fuel rail/fuel filter
3bar tial wastegate 38mm and greddy bov
i made charge piping and precision 600hp intercooler
evans tuned
made 300whp on 93 octane (10-13psi)
made 500whp on 110 octane (24-25psi)

drove for 1 full season no problems
drove on the street sum but 300whp on street is to unsafe for my liking
basically just trying to show ya it can be done easy and safely

does this help?

dan

99TurboBlue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nasteboyii &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how does this sound
t3t4 e60 57 63 trim
b16 w/ross pistons crower rods (and eagles now)
stock sleeves, built by me
ITR Intake cam/gsr exhuast
lovefab ram horn w/3inch down pipe full exhaust
255hp fp,1000rc jectors aem fpr/fuel rail/fuel filter
3bar tial wastegate 38mm and greddy bov
i made charge piping and precision 600hp intercooler
evans tuned
made 300whp on 93 octane (10-13psi)
made 500whp on 110 octane (24-25psi)

drove for 1 full season no problems
drove on the street sum but 300whp on street is to unsafe for my liking
basically just trying to show ya it can be done easy and safely

does this help?

dan
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Is that a turbonetics turbo you have? I think that is the exact one I have too. Haha, I thought I put down my set-up again ours are so similar lol. But hey man, that helps out a lot, I really appreciate it. So you thin I should shoot for the 15psi range if I want something around 350 and still being safe? Thanks again man

99TurboBlue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh i hated dynoing....i was so stressed out the first time i went...my car actually blew a piece of charge piping off while i was behind it and it began to run really rich....When tons of smoke pour from your exhaust at high rpm and then the car quickly decellerates, it tends to make you **** yourself....

I would bring it back up to the tuner. You have a good engine setup and i hope you keep it that way...</TD></TR></TABLE>

It was my first dyno I've ever been to so everything was new to me. The turbo spiked to 12 ilbs and I thought my car blew up and I lossed everything I put my hard work and money into. I went home to find out I did **** myself earlier that day lol

GetawayInMoscow

The only reason for dyno tuning is to extract ever single last hp from your car possible. You can street tune it and still be safe and reliable if you know what you are doing.

I would rather read up on tuning and put a wideband in my car ($300) and maybe EGT gauge and always know whats going on rather than pay someone to tune my **** and have no clue about anything that's going on in the engine. Not to mention that but unless you live in some key places in the US and can get tuned by someone good like Jeff Evans or Mase or someone, chances are that the person tuning your car will also have limited knowledge of whats going on. Tuning a Honda is a lot different than tuning a DSM or SR20, you can't just dump fuel into it and call it a day.

nasteboyii

yes its a turbonetics
12-15psi is only a measure point, make the power u want to make thats realiable, PERIOD

if u want to make 350 on 93 octane i dont konw if u can, without more stress on parts, but its all good

300 on street is pretty damn fast, i went 1157 on drag radials 2400 lbs car on 15psi
best pass ever, then with 500 hp only went 1144 at 133 instead of like low 120s, so power is not everything

hope this helps u out

and i agree with tuning as well, Jeff evans did tune mine, so that helps out a bit
but i also have a wideband, and it does help to see that at times too
but on race gas u will kill widebands if drivin on street allt he time

good luck
dan

99TurboBlue

thanks for all the input guys

broadheadjohn

I'm running 8 pounds on a stock gsr with 440's walbro 255 and yesterday I made 274 hp and 200 ft tq. Mabey I am too new at this stuff, but 230 hp sounds pretty low with a built motor and 9 pounds

99TurboBlue

haha, thats what i was thinkin. could my fuel pump have been so bad that it gave me shitty numbers like that?

nasteboyii

yo do realize boost is not the only thing that affects making power
timing has alot to do with it
if he tuned with very little timing, it would make low HP numbers
did i mention on my setup im 10.6 to 1 cr as well

good luck

JoePSI

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It does sound low, but it depends on the dyno he used. If he used a Mustang dyno it may be fine.

99TurboBlue

he did use a mustang dyno. the charts said 200 horse, and then he added 15% because theres error or something like that because of the certain dyno. so the calculated horsepower came out to be $230 wheel.

99TurboBlue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nasteboyii &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yo do realize boost is not the only thing that affects making power
timing has alot to do with it
if he tuned with very little timing, it would make low HP numbers
did i mention on my setup im 10.6 to 1 cr as well

good luck
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yea i know, but chris harris that did it said my timing was adjusted and is practically perfect now so i don't see how that could be the issue.

JDM_EM1

check my sig for ideas, we have pretty similars setups...

99TurboBlue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check my sig for ideas, we have pretty similars setups...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Those are some nice numbers man. I guess I'll shoot for 16-17 pounds when I do my street tune and hope for the best. My timing is perfect like I said before so I shouldnt have any problems (knock on wood). Thanks for your help

99TurboBlue

chris was saying how his computer was telling him that my 750 injectors were at 100% duty cycle at 230 wheel. something was a little screwd up there. I'm hoping my numbers were off because of my fuel pump?? Think that ould have been the problem at all??