what size wastegate???
03-05-2008, 03:00 PM
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what size wastegate???
ok, well i have a T4 turbo, .60ar and 1.15ar exhaust side... right now im trying to find a manifold for my b18 for it and was wondering what size wastegate would be best? i have a 38mm one right now but some one else said that i should get a 44mm one. (he doesnt know a lot about cars though) so this is why im asking what size would be best to run with that turbo...
03-05-2008, 05:30 PM
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Re: (Attaus)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Attaus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why the HELL would you get a 1.15 AR T4 hot side for a B18?
That's going to spool at about 7,000 RPM at best.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya , he said his friend doesn't know much about cars, but sounds like he doesn't know much either
That's going to spool at about 7,000 RPM at best.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya , he said his friend doesn't know much about cars, but sounds like he doesn't know much either
03-05-2008, 05:51 PM
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actually you both are wrong, i had it on my car already and it spools at 4k and throws you into the seats and its only on 4psi now but was at 8psi... if you knew what i had done to this car then youd understand... also evanstuning has tuned a b18 with this same turbo and the kid put 840whp down with it and evan even said it spooled REAL quick and a LOT sooner then he thought... so dont talk **** until you know what something will do for a FACT, or from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE...
also if you two didnt plan on answering a question or helping then keep your stupid comments to yourself and look at the top of the forums where it says about the flaming on ppl...
also if you two didnt plan on answering a question or helping then keep your stupid comments to yourself and look at the top of the forums where it says about the flaming on ppl...
03-05-2008, 07:42 PM
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Re: (Attaus)
how much power are you planning on making, i would go by that. i just finished my build and planning on making 500+ i had a 38mm but sold it and went with a 44mm just to be on the safe side.
03-05-2008, 09:04 PM
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Re: (Attaus)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Attaus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Post a dyno with pics or stfu.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok smart ***... here you go...
815whp
http://forums.evans-tuning.com...=4809
845whp
http://forums.evans-tuning.com...=3373
BOTH with 1.15ar on exhaust side, feel like a dumbass now? so why dont you just keep your stupid *** comments to yourself now...
ok smart ***... here you go...
815whp
http://forums.evans-tuning.com...=4809
845whp
http://forums.evans-tuning.com...=3373
BOTH with 1.15ar on exhaust side, feel like a dumbass now? so why dont you just keep your stupid *** comments to yourself now...
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03-05-2008, 09:11 PM
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Re: (ls19integra95)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95dc2teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much power are you planning on making, i would go by that. i just finished my build and planning on making 500+ i had a 38mm but sold it and went with a 44mm just to be on the safe side.</TD></TR></TABLE>
first off id like to thank you for being the first and only person so far to give any useful info or actually asking a question...
as for my car im planning on only running like 12-15psi daily and then at the track i will go like 25psi most until i get another car and can get new 1600cc injectors where i will then run 40psi at track...
first off id like to thank you for being the first and only person so far to give any useful info or actually asking a question...
as for my car im planning on only running like 12-15psi daily and then at the track i will go like 25psi most until i get another car and can get new 1600cc injectors where i will then run 40psi at track...
03-05-2008, 09:51 PM
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Re: (ls19integra95)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ls19integra95 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
first off id like to thank you for being the first and only person so far to give any useful info or actually asking a question...
as for my car im planning on only running like 12-15psi daily and then at the track i will go like 25psi most until i get another car and can get new 1600cc injectors where i will then run 40psi at track...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your welcome man. I would say if you lookin to run that much psi on a turbo like that then definately get aleast a 44mm or maybe even bigger...
first off id like to thank you for being the first and only person so far to give any useful info or actually asking a question...
as for my car im planning on only running like 12-15psi daily and then at the track i will go like 25psi most until i get another car and can get new 1600cc injectors where i will then run 40psi at track...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your welcome man. I would say if you lookin to run that much psi on a turbo like that then definately get aleast a 44mm or maybe even bigger...
03-08-2008, 10:59 AM
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Re: (95dc2teg)
when you got the 44mm wastegate did you have to have your manifold customized to fit it or did you get a new manifold or is there an adaptor to allow it to fit?
03-08-2008, 01:11 PM
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Re: (ls19integra95)
What manifold are you planning on running? Also, is 12psi the lowest you plan on running? I'm assuming your turbo is a divided housing? If all this is the case, I would run dual 44s on the manifold. A turbo that large with that low of boost is def gonna need a way to get rid of all that pressure.
03-08-2008, 01:45 PM
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Re: (SpoolnG2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpoolnG2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What manifold are you planning on running? Also, is 12psi the lowest you plan on running? I'm assuming your turbo is a divided housing? If all this is the case, I would run dual 44s on the manifold. A turbo that large with that low of boost is def gonna need a way to get rid of all that pressure. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (LastGenEK)
if your running a 1.15 a/r open housing on a "t4" that spools at 4k, i'm assuming its probably a 57 trim or a 60 trim e cover turbo, which you can't make that much power on in the first place.
that turbo that made the power in the dyno sheets posted did hit full boost until 6500 rpm and is not a "t4". its a gt42.
wastegate size will depend on a bunch of stuff, head, manifold, exhaust and a bunch of other stuff.
usually big turbo = small wastegate, small turbo = big wastegate. the bigger the wastegate, the better the control though. depends on how much you want to spend.
if you have a 38mm and all you want to run is 12~15 psi on your turbo and you don't have extra cash sitting around, just use it. should be fine.
that turbo that made the power in the dyno sheets posted did hit full boost until 6500 rpm and is not a "t4". its a gt42.
wastegate size will depend on a bunch of stuff, head, manifold, exhaust and a bunch of other stuff.
usually big turbo = small wastegate, small turbo = big wastegate. the bigger the wastegate, the better the control though. depends on how much you want to spend.
if you have a 38mm and all you want to run is 12~15 psi on your turbo and you don't have extra cash sitting around, just use it. should be fine.
03-08-2008, 06:57 PM
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Re: (ls19integra95)
ok your all argueing for no reason cause your both right, yes the op said it spools at 4k and it does, just barely start to spool, the other guy said it wont spool till 7k he was obviously referring to full boost, in which case he was right the turbo looked like it hit full boost at 6750rpm...
03-08-2008, 07:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blinx9900 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok your all argueing for no reason cause your both right, yes the op said it spools at 4k and it does, just barely start to spool, the other guy said it wont spool till 7k he was obviously referring to full boost, in which case he was right the turbo looked like it hit full boost at 6750rpm...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds like a really fun turbo...i hope this is going on a stock block
Sounds like a really fun turbo...i hope this is going on a stock block
03-09-2008, 06:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sounds like a really fun turbo...i hope this is going on a stock block</TD></TR></TABLE>
first off theres about 7k in the bottom end alone, the heads fully built, its sleeved and everything possible on it, the exhaust is going to a full downipe back 3" exhaust... and i never said it fully boosted at 4k, just spooled and started pulling at 4k...
yes 12 psi is the LOWEST i plan on running
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manifoldmiketyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your running a 1.15 a/r open housing on a "t4" that spools at 4k, i'm assuming its probably a 57 trim or a 60 trim e cover turbo, which you can't make that much power on in the first place.</TD></TR></TABLE>
as for the doesnt make much power... you dont really know that considering youve never driven in it, seen it or anything... theres a lot more done to this car/engine/turbo system then you think... if i need to have a custom turbo manifold made to fit with the turbo and the wastegate or dual wastegates then i will... im not going cheap on this car like some others do, theres already a lot of custom stuff on this car...
Sounds like a really fun turbo...i hope this is going on a stock block</TD></TR></TABLE>
first off theres about 7k in the bottom end alone, the heads fully built, its sleeved and everything possible on it, the exhaust is going to a full downipe back 3" exhaust... and i never said it fully boosted at 4k, just spooled and started pulling at 4k...
yes 12 psi is the LOWEST i plan on running
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manifoldmiketyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your running a 1.15 a/r open housing on a "t4" that spools at 4k, i'm assuming its probably a 57 trim or a 60 trim e cover turbo, which you can't make that much power on in the first place.</TD></TR></TABLE>
as for the doesnt make much power... you dont really know that considering youve never driven in it, seen it or anything... theres a lot more done to this car/engine/turbo system then you think... if i need to have a custom turbo manifold made to fit with the turbo and the wastegate or dual wastegates then i will... im not going cheap on this car like some others do, theres already a lot of custom stuff on this car...
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Re: (ls19integra95)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ls19integra95 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually you both are wrong, i had it on my car already and it spools at 4k and throws you into the seats and its only on 4psi now but was at 8psi... if you knew what i had done to this car then youd understand... also evanstuning has tuned a b18 with this same turbo and the kid put 840whp down with it and evan even said it spooled REAL quick and a LOT sooner then he thought... so dont talk **** until you know what something will do for a FACT, or from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE...
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If you already had it on your car and you were able to hold steady boost at 4-8 psi then you are the one that should be answering the questions on what wastegate to get. Your wastegate choice depends alot on what manifold you are running.
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If you already had it on your car and you were able to hold steady boost at 4-8 psi then you are the one that should be answering the questions on what wastegate to get. Your wastegate choice depends alot on what manifold you are running.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boner_Ben »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you already had it on your car and you were able to hold steady boost at 4-8 psi then you are the one that should be answering the questions on what wastegate to get. Your wastegate choice depends alot on what manifold you are running. </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats the thing, the manifold that was on there blew apart, along with the one before that and im sick of it so i was looking at cast iron ones but im trying to figure out just which wastegate would be best before i actually purchase another manifold...
If you already had it on your car and you were able to hold steady boost at 4-8 psi then you are the one that should be answering the questions on what wastegate to get. Your wastegate choice depends alot on what manifold you are running. </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats the thing, the manifold that was on there blew apart, along with the one before that and im sick of it so i was looking at cast iron ones but im trying to figure out just which wastegate would be best before i actually purchase another manifold...
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Re: (ls19integra95)
I not saying that it won't make as much power your thinking it will but T4 is different from GT42 like manifoldmiketyson said.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ls19integra95 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
first off theres about 7k in the bottom end alone, </TD></TR></TABLE>
how the hell did u rack up a $7000 on just ur bottom end (meaning block only)
sorry mines fully built including everything brand new from honda and i'm only sitting at a little over $3000. doesn't add up. care to list what u all did to spend $7000???
first off theres about 7k in the bottom end alone, </TD></TR></TABLE>
how the hell did u rack up a $7000 on just ur bottom end (meaning block only)
sorry mines fully built including everything brand new from honda and i'm only sitting at a little over $3000. doesn't add up. care to list what u all did to spend $7000???
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knife endged and micro polished crank, magilla sleeved, bored to 84mm, arias 84mm inverted dome top pistons, JG turbo rods, type r oil pump, new oil pick up tube and screen, golden eagle new main girdle, line honed mains, acl rod bearings, acl main bearings, arp main studs, moroso 5.5qt oil pan, fullly balanced and blue printed, all new gaskets/ bearings/ rings/ seals, new water pump and tube, new belt tensioner
ok so its not quite 7k with the parts but when labor was added onto things its cost just about 7k...
ok so its not quite 7k with the parts but when labor was added onto things its cost just about 7k...
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sounds like a good build you got going there, check mine out:
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