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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIK IN DA HED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do the oil return line the right way.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Amen to that. Also, I would've taken my sweet time with the install. It was a little sloppy and because of it I had to do a lot of touch-up work.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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This post is great, so far it looks like the two big things not to do are skimp on fuel management and oil return lines. Good things to know. Sorry i cant contribute any experience but ive been reading the boards for awhile and the biggest thing i have picked up on is the importance of tuning and fuel management, so im gonna say dont skimp on those. Plan your budget to include tuning, unless you can do it yourself obviously.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 06:21 PM
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be ready for a whole shitload of probs!! so many things can go wrong with a turbo esp from my experience i didnt know too much make sure u got plenty of time and a second car!
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REVHARD_EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Buy an EGT guage!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can you elaborate as to why? You are the first person to mention that on this post and although I am for sure getting one...I was wondering why you said that...
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xenocron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Can you elaborate as to why? You are the first person to mention that on this post and although I am for sure getting one...I was wondering why you said that...</TD></TR></TABLE>

autometer type a/f gauges aren't usually that accurate or specific to use as a safety measure alone. as an example... when i ran the afc hack tuned to like 12:1 a/f ratio... my egt's (probe in downpipe) would be like say 800 degrees C at WOT full boost. When I went hondata my EGTs dropped like 100 degrees. The a/f gauge was in the green on both situations.
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tofurky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't run a lighter/smaller/aftermarket/civic type r crank pulley.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why not run a ctr pulley...i was gonna get one cuz im not gonna be using ac or power steering
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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if you think its gonna cost x amount of money...double it.

Learn and research and DO IT YOURSELF. Saves money and is extremly gratifying.

Don't turbo an automatic.

T3/T4 hybrid turbo's from turbonetics/FMAX are known to have bad seals.

TUNE your car! Its the best thing you can do. It will save your car.

Have patience.


Question: Whats wrong with a Check Valve...is this the MAP SENSOR BYPASS VALVE? Missing Link? This is the device that fools the stock 1 Bar Sensor right?


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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 11:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTC_CiViC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't get married.</TD></TR></TABLE>

bad luck...my fiance encourages me on doing my car. heck I wouldnt have it right now if it wasnt for her telling me. "just get it" whenever everyone else was telling me no (2 seater car and a kid on the way, GOD I love my soon to be wife)
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 02:12 AM
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ok so there is a big stink about FMU. ok here is the setup i was planning. t3 turbo on a stock b16 no more than 8psi. stock injectors, would the FMU be uncapable on this setup, i have heard other wise and i was wondering. also zydene also says a stock map sensor is good to 9psi or so so do i really need a missing link.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 06:16 AM
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actually i thought the stock map was good to 12psi.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 06:28 AM
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Thats just what i read on the zydene website, it might possibly be good to higher, some ppl suggest safer rather than sorry.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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if you have a custom kit, test fit absolutely everything first before even starting an install minor alignment issues could cost you a day of redoing a downpipe or charge piping.

never ever rush.

give your car a day or two before you actually drive it any further than your local area.

make sure all your vital parts like oil lines are in no direct contact with heat, sharp edges, wastegate vent tubes or anything else that could damage them.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 07:26 AM
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Again, this is what I would not do again....

Never buy a used turbo unless you plan on having it rebuilt.
Don't use an FMU.
Don't mess around with a little DSM side mount, get a FMIC.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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remember this .... if you plan 1 hour to do something...like install an oil cooler...you multipied by 3 ....

ex : Ok its times to get my new DP install...

So I figure 45 minutes.....

45 min x 3 = 135 min.

Im sure that everyone who have dirty hands know this rules...
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 08:36 AM
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If you have to go with a kit, don't go for the lowest price. Make sure you ask everyone about it, if there are any issues and how the install went.

Pray.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xenocron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Got another one I witnessed Sunday...

DO NOT do endless burnouts in your newly car tranny for a crowd of onlookers, slamming threw gears on a 100k+ tranny thinking it can take it

Watched a guy blow the spider gears right thru the back of his tranny...he was 70 miles from home </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, i saw the same thing happen this past weekend at rockfalls raceway in WI. except it was a girl driving a caviler...damn i feel sorry for her. also saw a hold fly open smashing the windshield, and car parts flying off.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicRyda2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">autometer type a/f gauges aren't usually that accurate or specific to use as a safety measure alone. as an example... when i ran the afc hack tuned to like 12:1 a/f ratio... my egt's (probe in downpipe) would be like say 800 degrees C at WOT full boost. When I went hondata my EGTs dropped like 100 degrees. The a/f gauge was in the green on both situations. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well...EGT temps change based on changing other variables such as timing. So maybe hondata helped get timing in check better than your AFC hack.

Personally I think good gauges should be present to keep tabs that everything is in proper order. Although I get the feeling that most buy them for looks...but thats just my opinion.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by keebler65 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually i thought the stock map was good to 12psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>

obd0 cars it is good till around 9
obd1 is 10.65 i think...
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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Do your research so you will already know the potential problems and be able to fix them immediatly and not ruin you nice new turbo parts. I had mine 100% right except i reused the oil pan gasket and it leaked a bit out the back needless to say I was under the car the next day putting in a new one when i could have been bailing.......in my hatch
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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dont buy a plastic turbo!!!
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xenocron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well...EGT temps change based on changing other variables such as timing. So maybe hondata helped get timing in check better than your AFC hack.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i most definitely agree with that. that's what i was trying to point out. but remember higher EGT temps can be bad so having an EGT gauge is an added "warning" gauge
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTC_CiViC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't get married... or else a short jamaican kid (namely me, CivicRyda2k) will run off with ur GE sleeved d16 block
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do your research so you will already know the potential problems and be able to fix them immediatly and not ruin you nice new turbo parts. I had mine 100% right except i reused the oil pan gasket and it leaked a bit out the back needless to say I was under the car the next day putting in a new one when i could have been bailing.......in my hatch</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn i missed the point of my own story!!! DON"T HALF *** IT....thats more like it, and research too.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scatuli &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont buy a plastic turbo!!!
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LOL!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the advice.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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shot gun when the theives start lurking...
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