I was so set in going to an NA Spec B setup until I found out that running a turbo with modest boost (7-8psi) isn't a big risk as it seems. Finding a great groupbuy at importparts.com has also gotten me thinking twice. What kind of whp numbers should I expect with a stock boost DRAG turbo kit with adequate tuning and everything else stock (internals, exhuast, etc...)???

 

i have HEARD (do not quote me) of a bone stock ITR with a drag kit boosting 5 lbs went 13.0

 

Massive power....if you do it right

 

One more thing dont expect much with stock exhaust......

 

Just remember, if you don't get a lower compression headgasket, tuning will be everything because of the high compression of the R in stock trim. Be careful.

 

well i hope to be doing the same project at the end of this year.. if i can gather 5K together somehow.. i think i'll go with a drag kit.. swap a few parts here and there.. run hondata (not really cheap since you need to get a obd1 ecu), inline proheadgasket, arp headstuds, 3" downpipe, with full exhaust.. hope to boost between 6-8lbs at the most on stock intenals until i make more money for bottom end work.. if i can get 260hp+ at 8lbs i'll be very happy.. and i dont see a reason why not.. compression should be near 9.5

one more thing.. you can run stock injectors on 8 psi right? as long as you have a fuel pump to back it up right?

 

300hp @ 8psi with perfect fuel tunning

so i hear.

 

don't I know you ??

bheghe

 

with hondata 440cc injectors, drag3, 3" exhaust u should make about 300whp if tuned right.. thats good for mid 12's.. oh yeh .5bar 7-8psi

dont i know u too?and u



[Modified by DIRep972, 4:26 AM 9/25/2001]

 

You freaks gotta stop following me

oh, turbo itr's are sick btw!!

 

do NOT replace your stock headgasket with a thicker/thinner one... this changes the quench area. Your combustion efficiency goes down with this change, so you are hurting your performance AND increasing the possibility of detonation.


[Modified by austrian ITR, 1:12 AM 9/25/2001]

 

if you get it tuned right, you will love it , but you will need to be careful, dont get greedy wityh the boost or you will blow that motor, the compression is too high for a turbo on those stock internals.

 

Austrian ITR -- would you care to expand on these comments regarding the use of a thicker (though same diameter) head gasket, and it's effect on the "quench area". Thanks, because I was interested in the thicker gasket for MY turbo ITR project.

 

Do it right! Go for some lower compression pistons!

 

arent pistons what 500? and a headgasket is like 600? why would someone even bother doing a head gasket?

 

1) didn't realize the headgasket was 600.
2) it wouldn't be just pistons, it would be a whole engine re-work.
3) I just want a little extra "help" on the highway (boost).
4) wrt 3 above, looks like I'll keep the bottom end (incl. pistons) stock and just run 0.3 bar w/Hondata and 440's for a while to start. thanks anyway, ed.

 

I'm debating between a Toda Spec B setup and the Drag Turbo Kit at stock boost. Both, I'm sure, will shorten life of the engine but its probably neglible in my case...meaning, I don't really mindif instead of the engine lasting 300K miles, it will only last 200K miles until a rebuild is a needed. So here are the questions...

a.) Will I be able to pass emmissions testing with the Drag kit at 7-8lbs?
b.) Does a turbo that's tuned well have the same reliability as a well tuned NA setup?
c.) What is the cost difference between a optimally tuned Toda B setup and an optimally tuned Drag kit setup?
d.) Will a turbo require a loud *** exhuast?


[Modified by CPR, 12:52 PM 9/25/2001]

 

yeah pistons are 500.. then you need rods.. and while you at it you might as well get the block sleeved and blueprinted... but thtas too much money for me... i'm gonna stick with a heaggasket until i can afford internals, inline pro headgasket is like 300 for all of those who care.

 

A well tuned turbo ITR should be reliable if parts are installed correctly, even with a thicker headgasket. My car has had a thicker headgasket with 8psi for over 2 yrs and no major problems.

 

I dont know what your smoking.......My Inlinepro HG was only $300. Pistions might be $500 but then your going to have to get rods and all that stuff installed.......bet you have no idea what that will cost.....

 

Thats why im not even bothering to build my motor, too much money.. but i swear i have seen headgaskets for 600.. 300 is not too bad at all, i guess do the head gasket then man.. and boost .5 bar u will be happier ...btw im smoking crack