Vortech CAN be fast...
Thanks all...
Yea, 350whp from a turbo would have assloads more torque which would make it pull significantly harder in 3rd and 4th and no doubt pull 11's, but I want to run the **** out of this setup until I can afford to go back to a proper turbo setup. (I've been tossing around the idea of the Full Race turbo "kit" for awhile, but I dont have any income at the moment so I have no way of buying anything expensive.) Also, in reality the car makes 338whp with the exhaust on and 350whp with it dropped at the end of the header collector. I also tweaked the cam gear settings before going to the track and I think that may have even hurt top end power a bit but I suspect it helped the 6000-7000 range some instead (I'll trade some peak power for some more midrange). I havent got the money to spend two hours on the dyno tweaking the cam gears and retuning the fuel and ignition timing or else I would dial everything in just right. For now i'm using the *** dyno to make changes.
I'm using M&H 22x8 slicks on 13x8 Weld Draglites (the new 6lb each drag only wheels) and it works out very nice. Considering I have a very soft rear suspension, its pulling pretty decent 60' times now even despite quite a bit of rear squat. I'm working on a little something to solve that problem however. I expect it to help by at least 1/10th on the big end and probably about half that off the line.
What I REALLY need is a lighter weight car to put this setup in and pull some serious times. Considering the car easily tips the scales at 2600 without me behind the wheel and i'm not skinny at 240lbs either, it would be considerably faster in a lighter car like a CRX or hatchie. So, who has a pre gutted CRX with an 8 point cage already in it they want to donate to my cause?
Anyhow, it smokes about everything at the track but the trailered in cars and the quickest of the street cars also running slicks. Thats almost good enough for me.
As for the amount of boost, it is progressive... It makes more boost at RPM's rise. I make roughly 7.5psi at 6000rpm and 11psi at 8000rpm and 14.5psi at 8700rpm. Strangely it used to make slightly more boost with the stock Si cams but the GSR cams i'm using now seem to have better midrange which is more than a good tradeoff.
It turns out when I ran the car last Friday, I wasnt having tire spin off the line like I thought but rather I was launching too low and even letting some of the throttle out to make it hook up when instead it was dropping the revs down to 3000-4000rpm where it doesnt have nearly the power it does up top. I fixed that by holding revs near 5000rpm while the lights dropped and then launching at about 8000rpm on the last yellow with a little clutch slip until the tires spun and started to pull the car hard. This technique seems to be the way to go for me. Though it does still spin the tires in 1st, its pulling a GREAT deal harder off the line than before and 2nd hooks up like glue (since the tires are so hot from the burnout and from spinning 1st gear some).
Yea, 350whp from a turbo would have assloads more torque which would make it pull significantly harder in 3rd and 4th and no doubt pull 11's, but I want to run the **** out of this setup until I can afford to go back to a proper turbo setup. (I've been tossing around the idea of the Full Race turbo "kit" for awhile, but I dont have any income at the moment so I have no way of buying anything expensive.) Also, in reality the car makes 338whp with the exhaust on and 350whp with it dropped at the end of the header collector. I also tweaked the cam gear settings before going to the track and I think that may have even hurt top end power a bit but I suspect it helped the 6000-7000 range some instead (I'll trade some peak power for some more midrange). I havent got the money to spend two hours on the dyno tweaking the cam gears and retuning the fuel and ignition timing or else I would dial everything in just right. For now i'm using the *** dyno to make changes.
I'm using M&H 22x8 slicks on 13x8 Weld Draglites (the new 6lb each drag only wheels) and it works out very nice. Considering I have a very soft rear suspension, its pulling pretty decent 60' times now even despite quite a bit of rear squat. I'm working on a little something to solve that problem however. I expect it to help by at least 1/10th on the big end and probably about half that off the line.
What I REALLY need is a lighter weight car to put this setup in and pull some serious times. Considering the car easily tips the scales at 2600 without me behind the wheel and i'm not skinny at 240lbs either, it would be considerably faster in a lighter car like a CRX or hatchie. So, who has a pre gutted CRX with an 8 point cage already in it they want to donate to my cause?
Anyhow, it smokes about everything at the track but the trailered in cars and the quickest of the street cars also running slicks. Thats almost good enough for me.As for the amount of boost, it is progressive... It makes more boost at RPM's rise. I make roughly 7.5psi at 6000rpm and 11psi at 8000rpm and 14.5psi at 8700rpm. Strangely it used to make slightly more boost with the stock Si cams but the GSR cams i'm using now seem to have better midrange which is more than a good tradeoff.
It turns out when I ran the car last Friday, I wasnt having tire spin off the line like I thought but rather I was launching too low and even letting some of the throttle out to make it hook up when instead it was dropping the revs down to 3000-4000rpm where it doesnt have nearly the power it does up top. I fixed that by holding revs near 5000rpm while the lights dropped and then launching at about 8000rpm on the last yellow with a little clutch slip until the tires spun and started to pull the car hard. This technique seems to be the way to go for me. Though it does still spin the tires in 1st, its pulling a GREAT deal harder off the line than before and 2nd hooks up like glue (since the tires are so hot from the burnout and from spinning 1st gear some).
Last year I pulled a few 13.2's on street tires but they resurfaced the track and it is a lot smoother and stickier this year. I could probably pull at least a 12.8 on the new track surface with a good launch if I still had those tires. (Sold them to a friend who needed new tires bad since he is such a burnout freak and smoked his old tires off.)
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