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Old 04-14-2004, 10:22 PM
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is the uberdata better than the honda.what are the differences. i know hondata s200 if really expensive but can program alot. but i dont reall know anything about uberdata. ive been hearing it alot lately can anyone fill me in? thanks
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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (jdm.ek)

It's cheaper.

And yes, it is effective...

but no, it does not have all the features of Hondata.

I have this HUGE gripe with Hondata's marketing scheme, which made me experiment with Uberdata. It's worth a try, but only for the adventurous type.
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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (MarkC)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MarkC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's cheaper.

And yes, it is effective...

but no, it does not have all the features of Hondata.

I have this HUGE gripe with Hondata's marketing scheme, which made me experiment with Uberdata. It's worth a try, but only for the adventurous type. </TD></TR></TABLE>

datalogging is close, so close.

After that they are no PAR with oneanother.


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slowly but surely uberdata is starting to have all the features that the full blown hondata's do - basically it is free hondata - someone cracked the software and figured out the program to make it free for all - not great for hondata who is trying to make money off what they figured out but it was only a matter of time till someone followed their footsteps and got it on there own, also great for enthusiasts looking to save some money

i have seen quite a few cars including my own tuned very efficiently with uberdata or crome - the free tuning software setups available today.

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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (MarkC)

hondata has started working on the k-series motor. therefore the will be no more advances for the other platforms.

i like uberdata for several reasons.
1. ITS CHEAP
2. you can talk to the guy who made it if you have a question.
3. they are always improving, almost weekly.
4. it now has almost everything hondata has, except the nice blue box

the list goes on for me, it is a preference. i can guarantee this thread will be out of control in a day or two. so take in the information wisely
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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (jdm.ek)

so the uberdata is almost as good just without all the special features hondata offer.so it will do for now. or should i just save and get hondata s200. im kinda leaning toward hondata. i just trying to save money thats all!!
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Ive always wondered what uberdata is, i understand it controls the air/fuel ration like hondata/vafc but What exactly is it, like a ecu type thing or what? Pics?
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Thats what makes me move to the wild side, and I will be running UBERDATA soon! Which of course, I know so less about Uber, Just time to experiment. - Its cheap and as far as I've seen, It works!
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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (jdm.ek)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm.ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.........i just trying to save money thats all!!........</TD></TR></TABLE>

If thats the case then it looks like you made up your mind........Spend 400$ + or about 0$. I love my Uberdata, never had a problem with it, adn as stated will have datalogging up soon.
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i got a list of the stuff needed to make uberdata and it came out to about 30 dollars.is this right. for what i understand its the p28 ecu with some parts added to it. i dont see how its programable.
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uberdata is not a reverse engineered hondata. they are both just reverse engineered stock honda code. can someone tell me all these "special features" that hondata has over uberdata??? the only thing i can think of is datalogging (if you are going to datalog, then you need a wb, most come with datalogging so i don't see a loss there).

basically i'm trying to say that uberdata ownz!

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check this site on uberdata http://home.mn.rr.com/keebler6....html
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lkshs123constrawberry shortcake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive always wondered what uberdata is, i understand it controls the air/fuel ration like hondata/vafc but What exactly is it, like a ecu type thing or what? Pics?</TD></TR></TABLE>

basically you burn and reburn chips to program - best way is on a dyno of course - make a pass check the a/f - create a new map with the uberdata software and burn a new chip on a chip burner - then replace it in your ecu and make another pull - so on and so forth till you have a good tune for your engine

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all i want is for my ecu to be able to read boost for the mean time while i save up for hondata. would the uberdata be able to do this with no tuning.this way i dont got use crapy check valves
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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (jdm.ek)

as far as your concerened... they are the same thing, one just cost more. if you take the time to get uberdata running, there is no need to get a hondata. tuning them is virtually the same. and the potential of each is also the same.
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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (ndogg)

if you plan on boosting a lot (20psi+), get hondata.
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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (94goldjungsr)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94goldjungsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you plan on boosting a lot (20psi+), get hondata.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why is this?
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From the above link, was stated that I need these parts...
http://home.mn.rr.com/keebler6....html
29C256-12PC 2 This is the chip that you burn with Uberdata JDR
74HC373 1 The other chip that is reqired JDR
R1.0K 1 1K resistor JDR
.1UF 2 .1uF capacitors JDR
102744 1 Low profile ZIF Socket Jameco
40336 1 28 Pin DIP socket Jameco

I own a p72 95GSR ECU... I heard its not neccessary for the resistor? Anything else not needed? Thanks..
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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (synik)

go to this site it might be useful. http://www.ecimulti.org/uberdata/
click on uberfaq
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by synik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From the above link, was stated that I need these parts...
http://home.mn.rr.com/keebler6....html
29C256-12PC 2 This is the chip that you burn with Uberdata JDR
74HC373 1 The other chip that is reqired JDR
R1.0K 1 1K resistor JDR
.1UF 2 .1uF capacitors JDR
102744 1 Low profile ZIF Socket Jameco
40336 1 28 Pin DIP socket Jameco

I own a p72 95GSR ECU... I heard its not neccessary for the resistor? Anything else not needed? Thanks..</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's should be it. And you dont need the resistor because its not there. Just the capacitor and jumping j1. I'm also using a p72 for my h22-t. Chipping isnt too hard. You gotta learn. Once you do you can even make back your money. You also need a programmer. I'm using the batronix 4 version. They're many types. You can get them for around 60-120 bucks. Just check out the uberdata forum. And if you do decide on doing it yourself, take your time and solder. Try it out on a pos remote controll or old radio, that's is not gonna be used anymore. And pratice delsoldering and soldering.

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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (jdm.ek)

i had that same question.....here is the ultimate thread for this subject!
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=812119
good luck and i hth'ed
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whats the skill level of actually doing uberdata
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all you need is soldering skills which aint really hard at all
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TitanMotorsports.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> .....not great for hondata who is trying to make money off what they figured out.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

not to start a flaming war but what did hondata actually invent? all they did was crack the honda code and made it programable, which is the same thing blake did. (creator of uberdata)
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Default Re: is uberdata better than hondata???????? (jdm.ek)

I like uberdata myself because it is basically free but on the other hand i don't have the time to acutally learn all the programming of it since i am a full time student and the tuners around my area i don't think they know uberdata so for me
I think hondata would be the way to go.

I want to just set it and forget it


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