AfTeRhOuRs209

ok so i have the 38mm "street gate" which is the older version of the ultra gate.

It came with a 7lb spring, i just dont know if that is an outer spring or an inner spring? havent opened it up... because of lack of tools but ill be picking those up soon...

anyway.. the ULTRA gate comes with a 7lb outer so if you want to add a 5lb inner and run both at the same time for 12lbs total you can (from my understanding)

i want to order the 5lb inner so i can do just that.. i want to run 12lbs... not confident enough to run 14lbs (single 14lbs spring) on a daily basis but i think my motor (lsvtec ,gsr girdle, arp rod bolts, shot peened rods) will be able to handle 12lbs on a daily basis for sure obviously with a really good tune (which will be done right after im done with the car, its getting towed straight to the dyno)

I just figured someone probably has some experience with these wastegates etc

thanks ahead of time for the help

ghostskinner

where you going to order your parts from

AfTeRhOuRs209

damn, thats it.. i thought you had the answer to my question and you ask me where im going to buy my parts from.... damn

that doesnt make any sense lol

EARLdaSQUIRREL

why not keep the lower spring in it and use a boost controller, will be able to do boost by gear and have traction down low

AfTeRhOuRs209

wait a minute, now youve got me thinking

duel stage boost controller?

ghostskinner

you can check nolimitmotorsports.com

AfTeRhOuRs209

its funny you mentioned nolimit because i ordered a wastegate spring a month ago and still dont have it, im calling customer service today lol

im not sure weather i need a manual controller or an electronic

found out the 7lbs spring is an outer spring so i can get the 5lbs inner, i just dont know if thatll make the car spool quicker/slower etc.. from what i understand it changes the characteristics a bit when you run 2 springs versus 1

if someone could tell me how to go about the different amounts of boost in different gears, that would be awesome, maybe recommend a controller or whatever, there are a million controllers and i dont even know what im lookin for

thanks for the help

AfTeRhOuRs209

no one gonna help?

me = ?

Turbo-LS

iTrader: (4)

if you want to run 12 psi then get a 12 psi spring or get a manual single stage boost controller and have the adjustablilty form spring pressure to whatevber your looking for

AfTeRhOuRs209

yea but now im really interested in running different amounts of boost in 1st and 2nd gear versus 3rd 4th and 5th, this way i can hook up a lot easier in 1st and 2nd

so what exactly do i need to get to do this?

Turbo-LS

iTrader: (4)

there are many ways to do it. some engine managements have cntrols built in and you can get a solinoid. or you can just get a dual stage MBC and the second stage will be on a powered toggle switch. you can get an EBC and have several stages. there is a cheap in cabin boost controller on ebay liek 90 bucks i think and its basically a solinoid with a duty cycle turn **** that allows you to adjust boost on the go from inside the car but that wont do stages thats manually turning BUT its also got on and off so you can do wastegate spring in lower gears and the flip on the power and run highe rboost for higher gears

AfTeRhOuRs209

thanks for the info, but if the car is tuned for a specific amount of boost.. how does it automatically adjust to the different amount of boost? say if i did have a toggle switch

ill be running crome pro

EARLdaSQUIRREL

idk if crome pro has pwm boost control, switch over to s300 over neptune or ectune and get a boost solenoid (aem ect) and go with boost by gear by rpm

when a car is tuned it should have been tuned starting at the lowest boost and then turning it up, if its tuned for 12 psi you will need to go back and fine tun 7 (or 5) and then get the pwm(boost control via pulse width modulation) hooked up and start turning the boost up slowly

then you could run
5psi in first
7-10 in second
12+ in third etc

basically you want the lowest spring you can get and with the electronic boost controller turn it up in every gear so you get maximum power and traction

ghostskinner

does it hold boost well i have one as well i just ordered some parts from them for it and the the supersonic blow off valve to know that you ordered something from them a month ago and you havent recieved the part as yet is not comforting at all

Turbo-LS

iTrader: (4)

Oh and crome pro gold has boost control, i personally havent used it yet but im going to try i tout on the next car i tune if they want it and set it up

AfTeRhOuRs209

gold, damn i got pro... can i upgrade to "gold"

EARLdaSQUIRREL

from what i was told even the "gold' boost control is not fully useable

unuselectus

I hope you got whatever you needed from Nolimitmotorsportscom cause there website is down...

AfTeRhOuRs209

well that answers that, guess ill just run a 10lbs spring and feather the throttle in first and second

thanks for the help guys

AfTeRhOuRs209

that figures, ill have to file for somthin at my bank and get my money back for my spring, just another shitty outcome in my project.. what else is new huh

Garage 808 Hatch

get a turbosmart dual stage manual boost controller. i used one for years, and love it. just uses a toggleswitch to swap between the settings