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Old 08-13-2001, 10:28 AM
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Default Turbo Sizing t3/t4B

Ok,

i'm deciding to switch my turbo's trim and have some fun.

MarkC, in an earlier post said, "The .46 is my favorite wheel for fast spool-up street use. The .50 provides some insane top-end.
Stage2 turbine spools up faster than Stage3. What I have leanred is that Hondas are not happy with .48 A/R turbine sides. Especially the high-reving VTEC engines. Chokes them too much on the top-end.

A Stage2/.63 A/R with a T04E .46 will give superb spool-up and great top-end. Change the Stage2 to a Stage3 and you gain more top-end at the expense of spool-up. Go one size bigger on the compressor to a .50 and experience insane top-end, but compromised spool-up."


what about with a T04B instead of the to4E mentioned above?

HT member G has a .63A/R and works well for him, so i might go ahead and do that. Stage2/.63 A/R with a t04B .46? how does this sound? what differences will i see when compared to a to4E?

Inlinefour also has the same setup (to4E).

Would it be wiser for me to swtich to a to4E housing?

thanks!
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Old 08-13-2001, 10:40 AM
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i called majestic. robert is cool.

he said that the .48 in my exhaust side was probably choking me. i assume i have a .48 in my exhaust side because we looked up the p/n that was stamped on it and thats what came up. does this look like i'm choking? http://www.rspec.net/purelude/erax/dyno-na-turbo.jpg

He can switch my to4B to a to4E + rebuild, change wheels for $450. how does that sound?

anyone recommend AGAINST a stage 3 wheel? how about against a .50 compressor? how much slower am i looking at by going w/ this and which would be more worse off to get (a bigger stage wheel or bigger compressor wheel)?

so here are my choices so far.

Stage2/.63 A/R with a T04E .46
Stage3/.63 A/R with a T04E .46
Stage2/.63 A/R with a T04E .50
what other choices might be goood here?

I'm looking for full boost from 3.5k to 4k rpm. before is good too.


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Old 08-13-2001, 10:52 AM
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Old 08-13-2001, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (SOHCkordVTEC)

Im getting a Stage2/.63 A/R with a T04E .54=D
what do you think???
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are you expecting major lag?
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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (Purelude)

purelude,

i'm running a majestic turbo with the bolt-option right now.

t3/t4b with a .63compressor stage 3 wheel
have .50a/r i believe on the turbine. have to double check that but 99% positive.

love the turbo with the h22a. i hit full boost at about 3700-3800rpm. the car is fine down low and the top end is awesome.

haven't compared it to another h22a turbo, but the car just pulls and pulls even at 125mph. had a small run in on a local parkway one night.
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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (bgod)

whats the bolt option do?


full boost at 3800, not bad...stage 3 and .50 wheel sounds very possible for me then!

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hm.shoudl i get stage 2 or 3 blade?
Old 08-14-2001, 08:45 AM
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still need opinions! TTT
Old 08-14-2001, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (Purelude)

Majestic upgraded my t3/t04e(.54 trim) to stage III, .63a/r, .60 trim w/10°clip.

This seems to have more lag, but much more power at higher rpms; especially with 10-12lbs of boost.
Old 08-14-2001, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (apexii)

wow, .54 trim wasnt enough? hehe... how was the lag w/ the 54 trim? when did you make full boost.

how is the lag with the 60 trim? when do you make full boost now?
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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (bgod)

are you saying that your NOT experiencing problems with your turbo h22a? Does it pull hard after 5000 rpms?

What trim comes on the turbos in drag kits?


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well, the t3/t04e .54 was not the right trim(that would ship with drag) for my prelude. I got it new from a drag kit for a type-r, which probally is the same blower as the integra and/or civic. I think drag often ships ranom wheel sizes, so that's how I got the .54. I was advised that the .54 was not a great wheel for a prelude, so when it needed new seals I had it upgraded to the .60 per majestic.

Yes, I am still having problems with my prelude. I installed the new fuel pump tonight and it still boggs and dies when I give it gas. I now will look into ignition. It does pull very hard after 5k though, my spool is about 4k w/o a boost controller.
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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (apexii)

Apexxi -

you had a t3/t04e .54 w/ a stage2 .63a/r?

how do you like the stage 3 .60 wheel? would you go back?

sorry about all the questions, its all about $ and id on't want to keep switching things around! hehe.

hows the low end 3k-5k even w/ the big wheels ?
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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (Purelude)

guys help me out here don't flame me what is all those you guyz talkin about trim for turbo whats it for??? What is a/r stand for in the trim levels? Which would be a good trim level and stage? What trim level does the Drag III turbo kit has and Rev Hard and F-max thanks for the help.


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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (Purelude)

Purelude, sorry for such a late reply. I don't know what stage the wheel was that I had on there, but it was a .54 w/.63 a/r. I did not like it at all. It was way to close to the surge line, and ended up blowing a seal 6months into it. My current trim has more lag but more top end, which makes it worth it. It's better suited for higher bost, like 12-15; which I cannot yet accomidate to , (but i have taken it to 12-13 twice)

The low end is so/so, but my compression is ~8.8:1 via headgasket. I consider 2-3500rpms "low-end", but once I hit 4k i'm just about at full boost. Ball-bearing would have helped that out about 500rpms i'd guess. Either way, you should stick with the .63 a/r housing.

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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (apexii)

the 54 should be fine for a b16 though right?
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Default Re: Turbo Sizing t3/t4B (SiRkid)

purelude, haven't been on the net for the past week. but i do have the 54 trim. just checked my receipt the other day. i really couldn't imagine having more then that like apexii does, butt it seems like everyone's h22a set-up runs differently. i can deal with the lag now, but probably not much more then that.

definitely look into their bolt option. very nice.
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