Turbo Problems...Please Help!!!

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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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I started my car today with the turbo kit on...The car started right up but idles very roughly and is running extremely rich and fouled the plugs, right now i am running Uberchip and DSM 450's, I am not sure where exactly my problem lies, i was thinking of the following:

My resistor box is a mitsubishi resistor box, I am not sure of how many ohm it is, i know i need something that is 10ohm 10 watts correct? would switching to a honda resistor box or inline resistor solve some of the problem? ( i hope i didn't fry my ecu useing this box )

I know the Uberchip is mapped to run rich but i dont' think it should be running this rich...I was thinking about picking up an AFC tomo and cutting some fuel and see where that puts me...

Let me know what you think
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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Don't know much about how this Uberchip works, but does it know that you're running larger injectors?
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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yea its set for 450 cc injectors
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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I doubt that its your resistor box...but I am highly suspicious of the Uber thingy you have...does your car idle at all? and at what RPM?
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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The car held an idle the first time i started it ( was very rough), the second time i started the car it would almost hold and idle but stall if i didn't give it gas, the third time it did not start, i pulled the plugs and they were fouled...As for rpm's, i just picked up a gauge cluster tonite and will throw that on tomo.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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That sounds like the first time I hooked my 450cc up. My car did the same thing, but I had no fuel management. It sounds like that uberstinker is not doing its job properly. Get some sort of AFC to slow down the pulse.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Im prolly gonna pick up a VAFC/SAFC tomo...I know the local shop has one in stock just don't remember which one it was If its an SAFC should i still get it? is being able to change the vtec engagement that important? I'll also be running the Tuneable Uberchip and i believe i can change it on that
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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Even though the V-AFC is more expensive, I would get it. If you don't, you will want it in the future and regret buying just the S-AFC.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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I heard the only difference is being able to change the vtec engagment point...I can do taht through the software wiht the chip...anyways last i saw teh shop only had one and i don't know if it was an vafc or safc, either way im gonna get it i can't wait any longer
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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If you are getting an AFC, I would toss the Ubercrap altogether...you won't need it.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 05:10 PM
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why not keep the uberchip with the afc so my timing isn't advanced?
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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how much are you planning to boost?

I heard that the Apex AFC's don't do very well with other piggy backs...signals get crossed and wreaks havok on the ECU
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 05:21 PM
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im planning on boosting 7psi everyday..10psi at the track. Is that true about the AFC? i was under the impression that you could use it to cut fuel with the uberchip and then reburn the chip wiht those settings
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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Any one else have any ideas? would getting an afc and cutting the fuel be the best bet? what about the resistor box? I have a million things runnign through my head now
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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hey how are you controlling thoose injectors? if you are not controlling them then they are dumping alot of fuel in your engine and that is making it rough.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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Uberchip, i think my maps are just extremely rich...Also i can get a brand new fields vtec controler off a friend for cheap...will this work?
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 11:07 PM
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Or you can try controlling it with the EFi PMS i had, its already setup for the B16 with 10psi base map. You can control pretty much anything on it, specially when you get the Intaracq software then you;ll have datalogging capabilities...
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MiraiZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much are you planning to boost?

I heard that the Apex AFC's don't do very well with other piggy backs...signals get crossed and wreaks havok on the ECU</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are you talking about? My chip isnt a piggyback, it works fien with the afc. The reason you should use it with an afc is my chip has stock size n/a maps, ,and extra boost maps, so you dont lose the stock n/a resolution, and your n/a ignition curves are the same! And what he didnt mention is, he doesnt have a cluster, so he doesnt know if his car is in limp mode or not. If not, I goofed and gave him a map that is too rich at idle.
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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I tried again today, wired in a honda resistor box instead of the mitsubishi one just to make sure that wasnt effecting anything, The car runs but is extremely rich and has trouble holding an idle for long, im gonna try to pick up an afc tonite but i think that these maps are just way to rich at idle...
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