1jdmgsr

im new to turbo, so forgive me if i sound retarded asking this but i have a 95 civic coupe with a jdm d15b and a greddy turbo,intercooler etc,etc. my ? is that i have a fmu and the missing link, so do i need hondata or uberdata or is the setup just fine the way it is. like i said im nesw to the car and to turbo setups so please be gentle! thanks

b18bturbo

fmu will run the kit fine but to have full tunability uberdata/hondata. any of the obd1 ecu programs will give you larger control of your setup. Timing as well as fuel delivery with larger injectors

1SOL2NV

i think you should sell the civic and buy a pinto!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol just playing use the search function
better one of your boys telling you before anyone else does

Jim Truett

Sell the FMU and Missing Link to cover the cost of a ROM burner ($85) and a datalogging cable ($25). Run Uberdata Or Crome (freeware ROM Editors).

Research: http://www.pgmfi.org

FMU and Missing link are worthless tuning tools, IMO.

T-RO

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Thats true BUT if you just want a turbo'd car that runs an FMU will work.
If youre new to cars youre probably having a good time with the setup the way it is. Later if you stay "into" cars you may want more power thats when you have to upgrade.

Jim Truett

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Thats true BUT if you just want a turbo'd car that runs an FMU will work.
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Marginally at best.

Why have a half-assed setup with all of the freeware tuning tools available?

1jdmgsr

thanks for the info guys. where would i go to get these freeware programs ?
i am not new to imports just turbo setups and i am happy with the power right now but by spring i want to boost it up. now i already have 450cc injectors and a fuel pressure regulator, i guess what im tryin to ask is , will i definately have to have the editing programs when i turn it up?? and where would i get the know how to use these programs. thanks again for all you guys help

cxjon

what ecu you are running on your d15b

VTC_CiViC

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To run the car on boost is one thing, to "turn it up" is another altogether. Anything past the stock 5.5psi from the wastegate and I'd strongly urge you to run some kind of OBD-I editor (Uberdata, Crome, Hondata etc..). Head over to the Uberdata forum if you're looking for more information on it (google search).

Hang onto those injectors and resistor pack, have your ECU socketed, buy yourself a ROM burner (moates.net) and get your car on a wieband, that's the safest way to set it up. Oh yea one more thing, have fun! That's why we do it afterall

cxjon

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have your ECU socketedQUOTE]


if he has the po8 ecu that maybe a problem, it might not have the room

Jim Truett

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have your ECU socketedQUOTE]


if he has the po8 ecu that maybe a problem, it might not have the room</TD></TR></TABLE>

There's plenty of room, and I have the SMD latch chips for the JDM ECUs.

Freeware ROM editors and tuning info can be found at http://www.pgmfi.org

cxjon

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There's plenty of room, and I have the SMD latch chips for the JDM ECUs.

Freeware ROM editors and tuning info can be found at http://www.pgmfi.org </TD></TR></TABLE>

have you seen po8? there small as **** i know beacause i have one...

Jim Truett

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have you seen po8? there small as **** i know beacause i have one...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I have two sitting on the work bench next to me, and I've chipped more than 30 JDM ECUs.

T-RO

What basemap did you start with for the Jdm D15b? I know the maps are supposed to be a bit leaner that D16 maps but the only stock P08 map I found seemed it was richer (crome map).
Or did I have it backwards and they should be richer than D16 maps (I know they are not the same)

I'm replacing my Civic EX's D16z6 with a JDM D15b thats why I ask (boosted of course)

cxjon

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a shop near by said it was a no go to me

1jdmgsr

i dont know what ecu is in the car but i would assume that it is the ecu that would come with the jdm d15b, i dont know becuase i bought the car turboed and setup already. and again thanks for th help everyone i am starting to learn alot from your suggestions. one more ? what do you think is to much boost for that motor to be daily drven, ive heard i could run 10 psi on the d15b and it would be fine as daily driverm, but i would definately like to hear ur suggestions.

Jim Truett

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by T-RO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What basemap did you start with for the Jdm D15b? I know the maps are supposed to be a bit leaner that D16 maps but the only stock P08 map I found seemed it was richer (crome map).
Or did I have it backwards and they should be richer than D16 maps (I know they are not the same)

I'm replacing my Civic EX's D16z6 with a JDM D15b thats why I ask (boosted of course)</TD></TR></TABLE>

I used the stock P08 #237 code. You can use it in Crome, or import it as a P30 in Uberdata.

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Probably because they don't have the SMD 74HC373 latches.

T-RO

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You mean Import the Crome map #237 into Uber as a P30 bin? I never had success importing NON-Uberdata Bins into Uberdata before.

Jim Truett

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No. Import the stock Honda code #237 into Uberdata as a P30 to start with as a basemap. You can find the #237 in the pgmfi.org library.

T-RO

Yeah thats what I was meaning. Just came out wrong I guess. lol