if i run a stock b16a with a victor manifold tuned on hondata with 860's at 10lbs will this setup be fairly reliable? if it's tuned to say like a 12.0 air fuel ratio??......i'm running short on money to finish my b20/vtec and i want to drive my car for the rest of the summer.....but next season will be fully built on hondata......i'm just tired of swappin engines... so i gotta do it right......but i need to drive my car the rest of the summer....any opinions??
p.s. this is now my 3rd engine......it's gettin expensive

 

860s are way to big for a 10 psi b16... you might have some idlling problems.

as for your real question, relibility is all in how its tuned and driven.

 

bump, anyone else?

 

yeah, like other person said, you'll have idling issues, too much gas. at 10 lbs i would just go with some 550 cc. reliablity will be in the hands of your tuner and how well you take care of your car, maintenence, ect.

personally, i would not run 10 psi on stock block though, i know its NOT unheard of, but just to keep things safe i would run 7 psi daily, and maybe turn it up to 10 psi when you need it!

 

This will tell you exactly what size injectors you need.
http://www.rceng.com/technical.htm

 

on hondata a few guys i know are running like 1100cc injectors, so i know it can be tuned to run correctly, but the issue is i have this stuff for my fully built motor so it's pointless to get smaller injectors, this motor is just so i can drive my car for the rest of the summer until my built b20/vtec is done. but i just want to make sure that at say 8 or 10psi that the thing will run reliably i'm tired of swappin engines and i'm doing it right, but i need the transportation.....

 

you will be fine.
if its tuned well, youll be just fine(Even with the injectors)

 

i thought that with hondata you could make any size injector, within reason, idle correctly. Just tell the program what size injector your running and it should tune around that. Am i right by saying that?

 

yea thats what i was in the understanding of, i have found out however to make that big of injector idle correctly that my idle will be bumped up around 900rpm.........does anyone have a stock b16 setup that puts out some decent numbers that has been running for some time.....i'm really worried about the stock honda pistons, but like i said it's just temporary, but i can't live without my boost...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silverkorn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought that with hondata you could make any size injector, within reason, idle correctly. Just tell the program what size injector your running and it should tune around that. Am i right by saying that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

within reason, yes. but remeber, the larger the injector, the slower it is at openeing and closing, thus leading to a loopy idel

 

whats your car put down for power......or do you have any idea, whats your setup?

 

tuning tuning tuning tuning

 

hondata can freaking handle it. stop spreading mis info. not like hes running 2000 cc injectors

 

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mis info? so you mean to say that hondata is just going to make him run reliable without tuning or help of a good tuner? Hey i dint know hondata can tune by itself, must be a new feature i missed or something.

if ur suggesting other people are spreading mis info about injectors, sorry for my response, but if you are referring to what i said then i know i said my part right.

 

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mis info? so you mean to say that hondata is just going to make him run reliable without tuning or help of a good tuner? Hey i dint know hondata can tune by itself, must be a new feature i missed or something.
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http://hondata.com/featuresautotune.html

 

i was talking to pissedoffsol.
talking about lopey idle.

 

personally i blew my b16a2 @ 9psi after only 2500 miles, cracked the ring lands on 2 pistons.
that was after running 15psi for 45k mi on my d16y8 w/ no problems.
i was very disappointed w/ the b16a2.

 

damn
i hope mine lasts at 10psi

(crosses fingers)

with good fuel (intank pump, 550 injectors)
and good tuning (hondata tuned by boosted hybrid)

im not gonna worry about it much
7 psi daily
10 psi when it counts

 

How did you tune your fuel and timing curves when you had the b16? There are MANY people in this forum using stock b16 bottom ends that are producing 250+ hp @ 10psi and they are still going strong.

TwistedHatch, you should be just fine with the injectors + hondata you have. As long as you have a good FPR and Pump, and good tuning, that motor should last you till your b20/vtec is done.

 

alright, thats what i'm wondering, yea i have a walbrow intank and i'll have prolly an aem reg. and a fuel rail by the time it gets running, tuned on hondata s200b........i was readin a sig that said a fi b16a2 ran a 15.0 with a 2.36 60ft???????? wow, that doesn't seem right, on like 10psi i think??? my stock b20 without any tuning on fmu ran 14.20 with a 2.5 or 2.6 60ft at 103.......i hope my b16 pulls into the 12's cause my b20 hit 12.93 at 104.......and that was with cylinder 3 at 40psi........so i imagine tuned b16 should easily hit 12.80 or so

 

i hope your not talkin about my sig
im not boosted yet
that was with a b16a with i h e
and my 1st time at the track

however
i gutted about 75 more lbs out of her
and got some sticky *** tires too

so i will definatly have better results this time

boost will come soon enough

 

yea i was refering to your sig........i was under the impression that your b16 was boosted already.....thats good to hear though, cause my stock sir2 ran 12.80 like 2 years ago.......but no mangement, it went boom too......lol, but good luck with it, it sounds like i shouldn't have much of a problem if it's tuned, and i drive it pretty conservative.......

 

friend of mine has been running his si w/b16a2 with a drag III kit w/o hondata for 1 1/2 yrs. now....a few months ago he just got it tuned @ 10psi(still w/o hondata) and is pushing 254hp and cant remember the torque....if your engine is tuned @ 10psi you will be fine...he is having it tuned again with a few more bolt ons @ 12psi on stock internals...

 

thats pretty sick, what exactly his he having tuned, does he just have an fmu and what not????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Si Guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">personally i blew my b16a2 @ 9psi after only 2500 miles, cracked the ring lands on 2 pistons.
that was after running 15psi for 45k mi on my d16y8 w/ no problems.
i was very disappointed w/ the b16a2.</TD></TR></TABLE>

has nothing to do with the b16a2.. you just fugged up.
a boosted honda will do fine as long as its tuned properly.
all are pretty much equal strenght(stock) other than the b20 which DOES have slightly weaker sleeves.