bjones

http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/pebtokit.html

i have the chance to pick this turbo kit up locally for a good price, but i comes with everything EXCEPT the turbo. i was wondering what would be a good turbo for 450-500whp. my setup will be

gsr block: 81mm
block guard
eagle rods
cp pistons 9:8:1
arp main and head studs
moroso oil pan
new oem water pump&oil pump.

stock gsr head:
new valve seals, etc
Edelbrock VictorX Intake Manifold (port matched)
bigger throttle body(undecided at time, also port matched)
1000cc injectors
walbro fuel pump.. blah blah you get the idea
gsr lsd tranny
btw it will tuned on E85. thanks for the ideas in adavance

Turbocivic94

GT35R
SC61
and bunch others

1KWHP1G

+1 I use to run an SC-6152E in my 1G Talon.On my 2.0 liter it generated 384whp on 20psi on 93 octane.On C16 and 30+.psi it made 550whp.It would spool pretty hard 2nd gear at 6,200rpm's.Good street/strip turbo !

Schister66

Borg Warner S258 will do the job no problem and will do so without as much lag as any of the other suggestions

1KWHP1G

You'll be way happier with a ball bearing unit for the street.Spools up quicker than a non-ball bearing turbo,and handles high levels of boost for long periods of time better.If this was going in a drag car with nitrous than you could get away with the non-BB version but since this is a street car I'd try to stick with a BB turbo.

1KWHP1G

Definately,thats a good turbo too.

black_EM1

I'm guessing he's trying to stay within a budget and BB turbos aren't getting any cheaper. That said, I love my 30R.

bjones

its going to be weekend fun car\ track use. im trying to stay within a budget.. where does the 30r start to spool around??

extralargenog

iTrader: (1)

Spool iis negligably better... Transient response is notixable y improved, but spool isnt that much quicker.

Schister66

Obviously you dont understand what a BB CHRA really does. The bearing package alone doesn't increase spool time. Its the combo of the wheel design and the bearings. The above statement is pretty ignorant. Please, dont suggest things if you're offering incorrect information

An S258 compared to a GT35r....you're going to notice a good amount of difference in spool between the two.

extralargenog

iTrader: (1)

I would think that a 258 would outspool the 35r by a bit... I was saying that the guy that INSISTS that the BB CRHA spools so much faster than a JB style is wrong. The transient recovery IS faster for sure though... Curious as toi how rthe BWS compare... I cant find any dynos of a Built H with one VS 61mm GArrett,

WOuld sure like to see some.

My ? is how much of a difference is there between a divided .83 s366 and a 61mm garret unit.... or a 67mm garret unit??? Ive been witing for one of you BW pushers to chime in on the thread I started..





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spoolin turbo s

when you say 450-500 do you want that on pump gas or just on high boost and race gas?

also when you say budget....how much are you willing to spend if you answer those 2 im sure one of us on here could tell you exactly what would fit the criteria you have set

black_EM1

You're going to need a larger medium frame turbo like the others suggested such as the 35R, S258, etc. The Garrett units are going to be a little more expensive, over the $1k mark apiece.

My setup was similar to yours, but with a B16 head, AEBS IM, and 750cc. It made 418whp @17psi on a GT3076R. Full boost by 4500 and power past redline, it just kept climbing. It was beautiful.

bjones

it will be tuned on e85. i know the price of turbos and how much they are and im willing to spend 1k plus for a turbo i was just wondering what you guys would recommend. with the gt3076r would you say the 38mm wastegate is good enough or would you upgrade to 44mm??

black_EM1

38mm will be fine. Again, I have to stress that this turbo wil be breahing hard at 525, but that's above your goals anyway.

I'm sorry but I have no experience with e85.

1KWHP1G

You know what? I'm not a bench racer.I know what I know from personal experience.You sound ignorant just for being so quick to throw the word around.There are more variables to spool time than just the bearing,obviously.wheel diameter,A/R ,I/C piping,and so on.However,the BB version of any turbo will spool up quicker than the non-BB version.

GEN2 LS

iTrader: (3)

i'd go with the Garrett T3 60-1 .63 hotside works great on a b16 i'd imagine even better on a 1.8. There is some lag, but top end if def. there. Plus you should make 500whp on it without a hitch.