slowDA

i am looking to get a turbo manafold and i was wondering what to go with i heard that tubular will make boost faster but they have problems cracking. and cast will last longer but not make as much power

JDMJoe2000

tubblar is good cast is bad simple geometrics
fast air make free spinning wheels better. equula lentght beats log. helps if you vetech the car

tony

urbansi

i would say it depends on you goals, different runners make for differnt power, while on a honda its not like you are going to pick up gobs of tq from differences in runner length but there will be differences in the way power is made depending on the length and size of the cast to the tubular.

edit: ignore everything that jdmjo2000 or what ever says, i hope he was kidding for the sake of humanity

q45mm

If you go to garret turbos they explain it there I found it very helpful they prettty much teach you about syles and what they do
good luck
matter of fact heres the link
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/....html

rmcdaniels

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fast air make free spinning wheels better. equula lentght beats log. helps if you vetech the car

tony</TD></TR></TABLE>

AM I the only one that thinks that this is sig material?

redzcstandardhatch

hahahahahahahaha!

97turbols

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AM I the only one that thinks that this is sig material?</TD></TR></TABLE>
everything this guy says is sig material!!

2lude4u

To get back to the subject (though we all look forward to more insightful info from Jdmjoe2000) I would suggest tubular.

I had a custom tubular manifold that effectively spooled a T70 on my built H22. Tubular manifolds help with better spooling and reduce the opportunity for reversion. Their "weakness" is longevity. My manifold did get a few cracks overtime, that were simply rewelded. One thing to do to help avoid cracking is to fabricate a support or two that is connected to the block and to the turbo to help support the weight of the turbo, thus putting less stress on your hot manifold.

BoOstedEM1

Thats defent sig material.

JDMJoe2000

i heelp and no repsect from ne 1. more smootth pipes = better flow air and spoolin . which meean no leakeage in the diaghram. trust and check feul supply to the rail which incerease combustion hence boost leeak gone. cya. make surre to rev past 3.5k rpms to increease voltage. get msd ignition ii have that boom.

tony.

andysila

Equal Length it could be more expensive than a log. but if you havent seen the Full-Race manifold comparison, here it is:

just by changing the manifold, they gained a good number of horsepower.

http://fugu.trnetworks.net/~ge....mpeg

its worth the time downloading..

rmcdaniels

OMFG, I can't decide which one to use, ROFL.

rmcdaniels

And back on topic, I've used both, and my Inline Pro cast manifold started spooling faster, but finished later, while my Lovefab SST started spooling later, but made a bunch more top end power.

It depends on what you are using it for. If it's a DD making 250-300 WHP, then use a small turbo and a cast manifold, cheap and gets the job done with a quick spool. If you want to make 400+ on a built motor, then a quality tubular manifold may be a better bet as it will let you spool a bigger turbo faster and make more top end power with a smaller turbo, but good ones are very expensive

I'll put in a plug for Cody at Lovefab here, he made me a good-fitting rock-solid manifold, gauranteed it for life, and I abused it with constant drag racing, using anti-lag (very tough on manifolds), and extended 400+ WHP road course racing at &gt;20 PSI: it held up great and still looks and works like new. I've seen a lot of other manifolds crack under far less abuse. Plus everyone who has ever seen it has said it is a work of art. http://www.lovefab.com

JDMJoe2000

rmcdaniels just cuz u dont no the knowwlege behind turbogenetics becuz the air free flow with the timeing overturned bet u ddidnt know that. newayz get reality going b4 dissin away. i havea 10sec civic and its vetech...thats right. word vtech biginjectior and aem fuel reg, u goin down. aight. i'm running 35lbs of boost my ride with pipe smooth manifold spool it up

tony.

rmcdaniels

Dude, stop it, you're going to get me in trouble at work. Everyone's looking at me because I'm sitting in my cube laughing my *** off.

redzcstandardhatch

i cannot believe he just explained turbocharging so effectively. such elegance with the language of english.

jdmjoe is probably my favorite person on honda-tech now.

you made my day man. hilarious.

Boostfed

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Is that english?

stop posting god. </TD></TR></TABLE>

John I DO NOT KNOW HOW he has lasted a week on H-T without being banned!!!!!! WTF?

rmcdaniels

Maybe a moderator speaks his native language and he's actually some kind of genius. I will have to study his writings and see if enlightenment hits me.

andysila

i think hes one of those idiots who make a fake name just to be dumb.

10 second civic???? vetech??????

rmcdaniels

that's probably right, but it's still some funny stuff

Axel Foley

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMJoe2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rmcdaniels just cuz u dont no the knowwlege behind turbogenetics becuz the air free flow with the timeing overturned bet u ddidnt know that. newayz get reality going b4 dissin away. i havea 10sec civic and its vetech...thats right. word vtech biginjectior and aem fuel reg, u goin down. aight. i'm running 35lbs of boost my ride with pipe smooth manifold spool it up

tony.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this one had me laughing out loud, everyone at work's like " tom whats so funny"

huntarrr

aktualy me's herd dat teh toobular egg shaped wuz not crak unlez yous git da turdogenetics cuz dat haz bad trigonomiks

ginoboy1978

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I would go for a high flow manifold. Just brace it properly though(ie. turbo to the block). But there are also alot of good log mani's available too.

jdmJoe........you freakin rule. Made my day.

DAN

Erik_Pb_Foot

freakin' awesome

kasso

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMJoe2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rmcdaniels just cuz u dont no the knowwlege behind turbogenetics becuz the air free flow with the timeing overturned bet u ddidnt know that. newayz get reality going b4 dissin away. i havea 10sec civic and its vetech...thats right. word vtech biginjectior and aem fuel reg, u goin down. aight. i'm running 35lbs of boost my ride with pipe smooth manifold spool it up

tony.</TD></TR></TABLE>

please ban!!!!!!!