blaxican05

im looking at getting a super 60 turbo (thunderbird turbo .63 .60) and i want to put it on my ls... will i have a big problem with lag?

beerbongskickass

Lag is way overrated and no you won't.

RACINTWEEK

thats not a Super 60, its just a reg 60 trim.

eh3 93

Whats the difference in the Super 60 and the regular T3 60 trim .60/.63?

blaxican05

off an old as hell t bird??? i dont remember but i didnt get the turbo

turbotegy

i got a t3 super 60 and i love it.. spools great, holds power all the way till redline and pulls strong.. great choice for ls

by the way that turbo from a thunderbird isnt a real super 60.. heres the specs on the super 60

COMPRESSOR SPECS:

hi performance 60 trim WHEEL

.42 A/R

FLOW: 35lbs/min 422cfm

TURBINE SPECS:

68 TRIM WHEEL

.48 A/R

sohc_turd

quick spool nice low/mid torque, limp top end. That pretty much sums up t3 60trim on LS.

blaxican05

limp top end.... Haha thats where i need the power most... its an ls...

eh3 93

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How about going with the .60/.63?

Bailhatch

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exactly, i dont think thats a very good turbo unless you auto-x 3 days a week. I had the same thing with a ported .63 turbine housing on my d16z6 and the top end was flat. You need a bigger hot side for a more balanced power band. Get yourself a t3/t4, stg 3 turbine in a .48 housing and a 50 or 60 trim compressor and you will have a great powerband.

eh3 93

From what I've been reading the .63 pulls hard and strong til redline.

cobra2326

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That turbo is perfect for your LS, depending on if you are shooting for &lt; 300whp. Look:

http://forums.evans-tuning.com...=2743

This was on a GS-R! Super 60 is the BEST match for your motor.

Bailhatch

I think the only reason that has any top end is because its a GSR with an intake manifold. An LS with stock head/cams/IM would flatten out a lot more Id think.

That is a pretty impressive graph for such a small turbine wheel though. The external gate must be helping a lot with exhaust flow after full boost. A bigger turbo would make a much nicer power curve, but everyone is gonna have a different opinion about that aspect

cobra2326

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think the only reason that has any top end is because its a GSR with an intake manifold. An LS with stock head/cams/IM would flatten out a lot more Id think.

That is a pretty impressive graph for such a small turbine wheel though. The external gate must be helping a lot with exhaust flow after full boost. A bigger turbo would make a much nicer power curve, but everyone is gonna have a different opinion about that aspect</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know it seems small, but think, a t3/t4 hybrid will not be that much bigger. The main reason most people get them is to better complement the vtec top-end. Go and read on evans-tuning about what jeff has to say about this turbo. Nothing but good things and will choke very little befor the b18b redline. If you want, I can plot a compressor map for you...

Bailhatch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cobra2326 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I know it seems small, but think, a t3/t4 hybrid will not be that much bigger. The main reason most people get them is to better complement the vtec top-end. Go and read on evans-tuning about what jeff has to say about this turbo. Nothing but good things and will choke very little befor the b18b redline. If you want, I can plot a compressor map for you...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Does the bold T3 mean you're implying that a thunderbird T3 is going to have the same hotside as your average t3/t4?

I'm sure jeff liked that turbo, it looks like it made great power in that application. I still wouldn't want it on my car again. I really dont need any compressor maps since I have built and driven most of these combinations myself. Thats how I got my opinion. its not very scientific but i know exactly what I like on a street honda.

93supercoupe

Amen brotha, a man who knows what he wants.