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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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I pulled my plugs for the first time since i had the car tuned. Do these look good? Sorry for the quality i was using my blackberry camera.











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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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a little on the lean side but ok
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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a little on the lean side but ok
Really? I thought they were alittle rich?
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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they look fine cuz your doing more pt driving then wot driving so there going to look lean cuz if it tuned right the a/f will be around 13.7-15.0
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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try using Macro on your camera, it helps alot.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Timing looks ok too. Could be advanced a bit more, but not too bad.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Timing looks ok too. Could be advanced a bit more, but not too bad.
hard to tell from the picture but it looks like the timing is a little too advanced being that the color change looks to be below the apex of the ground strap. Just hard to see anything from the pictures. Not only that, but if the engine was shut off at idle and then you pulled the plugs, its only going to show the ignition timing result from idle on the ground strap. Trying to determine the timing on the ground strap at WOT in 10lbs of boost from idle is a little too risky for me.

with better pictures, you will get better answers.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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The blacker the plug the richer when the tip is white its lean yours seem ok just open any haynes manual and go to last page all the info is in there
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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just because the exposed portion is white, do not mean it is too lean. But its not white and you can see a portion of the fuel ring.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Thats why I said a little lean! Get a uego in that to get some true readings a must if your boosting or running juice
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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are those 6's , how far many threads down on the plug is the color change (6's are usually a stage too hot )
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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^^ Those look like BKR8E. Look like 8s here.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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They are BKR6E-11

I was told these plugs are one step colder by NGK.

These are what the car was tuned on.

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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two of those plugs looks like the heat range goes down 4 threads.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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What should i do? Should i get the correct one step colder plug? Will it effect my tune?
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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well telling us your setup would help. 6's are stock for b-series and 5's are stock on d-series. so if you are running 200whp on a d-series you might be ok with the 6's.

also if you want insight on how the car is performing in boost you will need to make a WOT pull, shut the car down at high rpm then pull the plugs for a reading. do you have a wideband? that will tell you what you need to know about afr. is the car tuned? who tuned it? can you post a map? i just feel like there are easier way of monitoring your car than reading plugs.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dpetro1
well telling us your setup would help. 6's are stock for b-series and 5's are stock on d-series. so if you are running 200whp on a d-series you might be ok with the 6's.

also if you want insight on how the car is performing in boost you will need to make a WOT pull, shut the car down at high rpm then pull the plugs for a reading. do you have a wideband? that will tell you what you need to know about afr. is the car tuned? who tuned it? can you post a map? i just feel like there are easier way of monitoring your car than reading plugs.

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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bump
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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Put new plugs in it. Do a WOT 2nd/3rd gear pull and at the top shut the car off. Pull the plugs and read them / take pics.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown90hatcH
Put new plugs in it. Do a WOT 2nd/3rd gear pull and at the top shut the car off. Pull the plugs and read them / take pics.
What plugs should i be using? If i put a different plug in will it effect the tune?
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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I run the bkr7e on my boost d16.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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What plugs should i do the WOT/shut off test with?

How do my fuel/ign tables look?
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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dont go into boost at low rpms.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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haha I hope he can't hit those cells.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 98vtec
dont go into boost at low rpms.
What? Please explain? Are you telling me the tune is bad?
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