Eg6_RcR

I have a 92 hatchback d16z6 with 127,000 and I heard all you guys making 200-250 whp from a SOHC/Turbo. My friend is telling to get a LS motor cause it has "more potential" for the price $2200 I dont think it is worth it from HMO. With $2200 I could be making a 200-250 whp out of my SOHC. I've heard that most of the time the people who are saying get the LS have never been in a SOHC/Turbo 200-250 whp hatchback. True with the LS motor i'll be fine for awhile but with turbo that is at least $6000... Bigger isnt all always better with the SOHC setup I should be in the High to Mid 13s range which is fine for me....I love my SOHC it lacks power but if fun to drive.....Should I get the LS or stay with the SOHC? With that many miles should I even think about boosting it or get another d16 long block.

Ri5e

300+ WHP Stock Block LS and also more torque to boot

blackeg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integ714 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 92 hatchback d16z6 with 127,000 and I heard all you guys making 200-250 whp from a SOHC/Turbo. My friend is telling to get a LS motor cause it has "more potential" for the price $2200 I dont think it is worth it from HMO. With $2200 I could be making a 200-250 whp out of my SOHC. I've heard that most of the time the people who are saying get the LS have never been in a SOHC/Turbo 200-250 whp hatchback. True with the LS motor i'll be fine for awhile but with turbo that is at least $6000... Bigger isnt all always better with the SOHC setup I should be in the High to Mid 13s range which is fine for me....I love my SOHC it lacks power but if fun to drive.....Should I get the LS or stay with the SOHC? With that many miles should I even think about boosting it or get another d16 long block.

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it almost sounds like you answered your own question in your post- you seem to have it down that ls has more potential but will cost much much more to actually be able to take advantage of that. and yes, for 2200 bucks you will be faster than an ls swap, and by the time u get a turbo setup for the ls you could have fully built d16 probably with hondata too. if i were in your situation i would stay sohc. compression test your block- if its good u can boost 7-9 pounds or so saftely when tuned. if its bad- another 7 or 800 will get you forged internals capbable of holdin 15-18psi rather easily.

EJ1 wilcox

I am sorta in the same situation!

I have a d16z6 with 94k on it and was debating on whether to go LS or just turbo my d16. I decided a few months ago on turbo and have been buying parts ever since...

Here's the way I see it... I could go LS, have a fun car with a little more poop than I have now, and keep the same reliability as a stock car.

OR

I could spend less than $2000 on a Greddy turbo kit, FMIC, bov, and the rest of the goodies. I am not planning on running more than 7psi daily on my stockie 'cause I don't want it working too hard. This simple set up will make more power than a stock LS engine and with the right tuning can maintain the same reliability as an LS engine. Plus turbo is a lot more fun to drive!!!

Then again, I don't plan on racing my car, I just want to have some more fun with my daily driver. I guess it depends on your goals. I'm not out there to smoke every one on the street...but if you are then go with the LS 'cause it has much more potential than the d16...

Let us know what you decide and why! I'm interested to know what you choose..

Tad

yeah you can make more power with an LS,

but it is heavier,
and the difference isnt big enough to warrant swapping to LS if your definetely giong to go turbo, AND you have a budget.

for alot of people around here.. if they swapped to LS, that'd be most of their turbo budget right there.

for 3k you can get in the 13's with a d16z6...
for 3k you'd only have 900bux to spend on turbo stuff with LS...

and thats 3 THOUSAND DOLLARS,
thats alot of money man!

dgonzals

LS gets my vote....more potential for more power...if that the way you want to go...

fsp31

One thing to consider, $2200 sounds more than a little steep for an LS drop. I've seen several for closer to $1200. Shop around and you'll beat $2200 for sure.

Tad

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yean but it costs more,
I dont think anyone is doubting the fact that theres more "potential"
with an LS

but come on guys.. this is boost here,
basically its like this.
an UNBUILT LS with an equivalent turbo setup and boost, will make more power than an UNBUILT dseries.

but look at how much more its going to cost...
ALOT MORE, alot more for the block, and the turbo kit it'self will probably cost more.

and if anything breaks on the engine, it'll cost more to fix/replace it.

all money you could just throw into bullet proofing the dseries and running a bigger turbo/more boost/more tuning, which means more power.

and if you saved ALL the money you were going to spend on that big *** 1.8,
and put it into building a bullet proof dseries, you'd be WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY faster than if you had went with the LS in the first place.

pennies for pennies I think the dseries is definetely the way to go.

but if your funds arent limited... well... you wouldnt be asking this question in the first place.

Bailhatch

Replacement cost for the long block is far greater for the b18b if anything were to go wrong. Just boost the Z6 and swap blocks if you blow yours. If you want to run 13s just spend $2000 on the z6. I have about $900 into my turbo z6 project (130k miles) and probably run high 13s with a stock exhaust at 7-8psi.
My friend has a b18b turbo that I have spent many hours in. I don't think you could tell the difference in torque by driving it, if there is any. Also i do like the lower weight of the Z6 especially for auto-x and back road twistys. good luck!

fastcivicboy

d series= if u dont have much cash and happy w/ 250whp

b series= if you have the cash and expecting more than 250 whp in the future

fastcivicboy

not saying you cant go over 250 whp though with a d. get ur block sleeved, rods, pistons, arp studs, standalone and 300 easily.

BoostedsiR

**** SOHC

no displacement

save your money and do the ls

Bailhatch

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no displacement

save your money and do the ls </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, worst reason ever!

specv5150

Yeah WTF...what LS swap cost 2200 bones. I thought B18B were on the high end (of the LS swap) but they cost no wherer near 2200. I have not researched Honda swaps one bit so I odnt if that would be motor, axles, linkages or whatever the **** else you need plus labor......If that is the case, I would definately boost the SOHC. I mean if your power goals are fair, 2200 can get you a long way. Alot of peopel shoot for high power wihtout havign been in a car with such power. The "fastest" car I had been in before I did my 240sx swap was rated at 155 at the fly.....my rb20 was putting down like 170 or so to th ewheels. That was fun for me. I know how that power feels and that is my goal. Easily achieved on a SOHC. If I desire more power, I can worry about that later

Tad

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedsiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**** SOHC

no displacement

save your money and do the ls </TD></TR></TABLE>

well I think you guys expected at least a few uneducated responses...
so lets let this slide mmkay

ueatdooki

I had a sohc turbo w/drag gen 3 turbo kit, it was good and worth it. Better than a ls swap. But the motor only lasted for a good 6 months before I blew it. Turbos are hella more fun to drive than a hyped up all motor car that can only be fast when you run it with a open header.