whats the difference? how much pressure can each hold? im just wanderin for this setup......gsr, itr cams, je pistons/rods, and planin on boostin it...and i was just wanderin which one has more "bang for the buck"

 

The sleeves are a much better way to go if you have the money when you are doing your build up. If you are running low on funds then go ahead and get the block guard it is better than nothing. It is some cheap insurance, I have used mine for a year and have had no problem. But I am looking to get my block sleeved some time soon when i get the money to do it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SolBreak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats the difference? how much pressure can each hold? im just wanderin for this setup......gsr, itr cams, je pistons/rods, and planin on boostin it...and i was just wanderin which one has more "bang for the buck"
</TD></TR></TABLE>Sleeves...are ductile iron cylinder replacements. A blockguard is an aluminum piece of material that is pressed/hammered into the upper gap between the OEM aluminum sleeves and the aluminum block. Bang for the buck....sounds like you might want to learn more about forced induction before you go out an buy parts you don't know how to use/install.

 

In my opinion, a block guard is a waste of money.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Junglesnake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In my opinion, a block guard is a waste of money.</TD></TR></TABLE>yEAH...I second that. Surely didn't prevent my #3 cylinder from cracking!!

 

well i never really read about block guards before and sleeves are like 600 bucks instalation plus the cost of them......just seeing my options

 

Remember...time is money too!!

 

Tune your car well and you will be fine. Many people have made big numbers on stock sleeves.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SolBreak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i never really read about block guards before and sleeves are like 600 bucks instalation plus the cost of them......just seeing my options</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depending on how much boost you plan on running we have sleeves that start at $635.20 installed....

We also get a lot of blocks in for sleeving that have cracked cylinders with a block guard installed!!!

 

Im interested more in the Darton sleeve setup. Where on the East Coast does the sleeving for Darton? And what services are included in the $635.20 sleeving? Just the sleeves and install? What other services can they offer? Such as: blueprinting, engine balancing, etc. and how much extra? What all will I need to send them? The complete block? (I have arias 9:1 pistons and eagle rods) Will they reassemble the complete block for me? How much extra for that?

Thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NVturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A blockguard is an aluminum piece of material that is pressed/hammered into the upper gap between the OEM aluminum sleeves and the aluminum block.</TD></TR></TABLE>

NEVER hammer it in!! if you install the blockguard right, it should be better than nothing(prevents the cylinders from shifting(?) at high rpm).. I'm using one now w/10,000km on the engine sofar w/o problems.. it's just my opinion tho..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hoya_10fintec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NEVER hammer it in!! if you install the blockguard right, it should be better than nothing(prevents the cylinders from shifting(?) at high rpm).. I'm using one now w/10,000km on the engine sofar w/o problems.. it's just my opinion tho..</TD></TR></TABLE>


That is what I am trying to say, for the $100 is is better than nothing. But sleeves are by far better, if your budget will allow them. If not the block guard is better than nothing at all.

 

The real problem with the guards is that they restrict cooling in the area that needs it the most.

 

^word alot of people I know that have run guards have had problems overheating. Bottom line, if you want the best performance then Sleeves&gt;block guard

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1.8tgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im interested more in the Darton sleeve setup. Where on the East Coast does the sleeving for Darton? And what services are included in the $635.20 sleeving? Just the sleeves and install? What other services can they offer? Such as: blueprinting, engine balancing, etc. and how much extra? What all will I need to send them? The complete block? (I have arias 9:1 pistons and eagle rods) Will they reassemble the complete block for me? How much extra for that?

Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

We have a new Darton East location that does complete bottom end build ups.
Contact Darton East at 888-877-8484 or email
<U>DartonEast@darton-international.com</U>

 

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Call earl and get it done right you will love the benson sleeves

 

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Call earl and get it done right you will love the benson sleeves</TD></TR></TABLE>

So are you saying that we will not do it right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Darton Sleeves &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So are you saying that we will not do it right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

proably not... but earl is always in here helping people out.. first time I have seen you in here...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Darton Sleeves &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So are you saying that we will not do it right?</TD></TR></TABLE>


No everyone just likes to give Earl felatio here.
Dont sweat it.Darton is the ****


If i were to ever do blockgaurds. to me it would make more sense to do one like middle sleeve then another towards the top of the sleeve. I dunno how it would work, but IMO i tihnk its better then just a gaurd at the top of the sleeve.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1.8tgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im interested more in the Darton sleeve setup. Where on the East Coast does the sleeving for Darton? And what services are included in the $635.20 sleeving? Just the sleeves and install? What other services can they offer? Such as: blueprinting, engine balancing, etc. and how much extra? What all will I need to send them? The complete block? (I have arias 9:1 pistons and eagle rods) Will they reassemble the complete block for me? How much extra for that?

Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

I am interested in more info along these lines as well. How about a PM with some pricing and product offering, as your website doesn't give much in that respect.

Thanks

 

Our East-Coast facility is right by Louisville, Kentucky.
At our facility here we warehouse all the Honda sleeves. We do the installations here and we also cylinder hone, align hone and we also assemble the complete bottom-end. Our warranties apply at both of our facilities. Anyone who wants prices and such can IM me or call us and we would be glad to help.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Darton Sleeves &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So are you saying that we will not do it right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, easy turbo, just saying a quality sleeved block is always better than a block guard.

(Kinda sounds like Earl is better with customers too)

 

how about like a crvtec build up. im low on cash and i wonder do i really need to resleeve for like a engine that has: Je piston, P&P b16 head, toda spec A cams, i/h/e. or can i just get a block guard? or should i wait and sleeve it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hype Vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how about like a crvtec build up. im low on cash and i wonder do i really need to resleeve for like a engine that has: Je piston, P&P b16 head, toda spec A cams, i/h/e. or can i just get a block guard? or should i wait and sleeve it? </TD></TR></TABLE>

B20 sleeves are worthless... get an LS block.