The Shodan's OTHER Boost project
12-19-2005, 12:10 PM
#1
The Shodan's - A rebuild turned into a Monster turbo
I was actually really proud of this particular turbo build before the holiday season. It was a unique setup that started off as a rebuild from a really screwed up Precision turbo to something that wasn't even imagined. It just took off on its own. Thanks to Jefferino for letting me make this. If I should take this off, let me know, and I'll keep off the REAL specifications for Jefferino to enjoy in privacy. This took about 5 weeks, but it was worth it.
Compressor .60A/R
Exhaust Housing: .63A/R SVO Ford Style 5 bolt.
<u>What it's going on</u>
<u> The Motor - Fully Built 4G63T Evo I motor </u>
<u>Compressor wheel GT40 Based on the SC61:</u>
Inducer Size: 2.416 inch = 61.3664 millimeter
Exducer Size: 3.227 inch = 81.9658 millimeter
Trim size: 56
(This is the same compressor wheel that is used to make the SC61/GT35R/GT3561S and similar types from several other companies.)
Comments
This one was tricky, for the compressor housing and internal assembly that was given to me was not quite balanced to begin with for the GT40 Compressor wheel, so even when I finished, it seemed to be about .025 off, and you can hear it make contact with the compressor wheel. this may have been one of the causes of its demise the first time. I also replaced the compressor housing with better fitting hardware that didn't seem to strip in the middle as the orginal hardware did. I also machined the brackets a bit so that there wasn't any fuss with rotating the compressor housing when needed. The compressor housing was rehoned and polished from the back to smoothen out the intake flow of the turbo.
Exhaust side
Exhaust Wheel Inducer: XXXXXXXXXXXX (Classified)
Exhaust Wheel Exducer: XXXXXXXXXXX (Classified)
Trim size : (Classified)
Comments
In this instance, Normally a .58 or .68A/R would be used on a T4 flanged system for the exhaust wheel, But I felt that for the 4G63 build that Jefferino is going to make, I could squeeze the same custom Trim inside the .63 T3 flanged setup, (to save some cost) and clip the wheel about 2 degrees, and sharpen the blades, to be a bit more responsive. (I actually cut myself messin' around with it
.)
Boost doesn't come on too quick, but is good for at least another 65whp (or over 102cfm) over the old school T351 exhaust wheel (The T351 wheel was discontinued by Garrett about 2.5 years ago, and Precision used to use them.) This is a clipped GTS-Trim based wheel, VERY close to a GTQ, but didn't have enough room in the exhaust housing. My associate Dave did the Port job of the exhaust housing to fit.
The exhaust wheel exducer is actually as large in size as the compressor wheel inducer, which will flow match well with 2.0+ litre with the 88mm stroke of 4G63 Turbo motor with slightly higher compression. As long as Jefferino makes sure to have the head flow a bit better (like a Honda VTEC head or similar), have it cleaned up with new retainers, a slight port, and a Magnus Intake Manifold, and a slightly higher redline (7800rpms should do it) this can easily reach over 660whp with this turbo. The only thing that would hurt flow from a turbo standpoint would be the E-Cover. An S-Cover would be in order.
This to me is what turbos are all about. Not just the 1320ft or the whp numbers and internet racing, but the actual design, specification and assembly of cool parts, and making sure that they perform to their maximum. I just want to knock out the competition in my own little way..... Except for you, Ken... You know you my boy!!
Modified by TheShodan at 2:23 PM 12/20/2005
Modified by TheShodan at 8:27 PM 12/22/2005
Compressor .60A/R
Exhaust Housing: .63A/R SVO Ford Style 5 bolt.
<u>What it's going on</u>
<u> The Motor - Fully Built 4G63T Evo I motor </u>
<u>Compressor wheel GT40 Based on the SC61:</u>
Inducer Size: 2.416 inch = 61.3664 millimeter
Exducer Size: 3.227 inch = 81.9658 millimeter
Trim size: 56
(This is the same compressor wheel that is used to make the SC61/GT35R/GT3561S and similar types from several other companies.)
Comments
This one was tricky, for the compressor housing and internal assembly that was given to me was not quite balanced to begin with for the GT40 Compressor wheel, so even when I finished, it seemed to be about .025 off, and you can hear it make contact with the compressor wheel. this may have been one of the causes of its demise the first time. I also replaced the compressor housing with better fitting hardware that didn't seem to strip in the middle as the orginal hardware did. I also machined the brackets a bit so that there wasn't any fuss with rotating the compressor housing when needed. The compressor housing was rehoned and polished from the back to smoothen out the intake flow of the turbo.
Exhaust side
Exhaust Wheel Inducer: XXXXXXXXXXXX (Classified)
Exhaust Wheel Exducer: XXXXXXXXXXX (Classified)
Trim size : (Classified)
Comments
In this instance, Normally a .58 or .68A/R would be used on a T4 flanged system for the exhaust wheel, But I felt that for the 4G63 build that Jefferino is going to make, I could squeeze the same custom Trim inside the .63 T3 flanged setup, (to save some cost) and clip the wheel about 2 degrees, and sharpen the blades, to be a bit more responsive. (I actually cut myself messin' around with it
.) Boost doesn't come on too quick, but is good for at least another 65whp (or over 102cfm) over the old school T351 exhaust wheel (The T351 wheel was discontinued by Garrett about 2.5 years ago, and Precision used to use them.) This is a clipped GTS-Trim based wheel, VERY close to a GTQ, but didn't have enough room in the exhaust housing. My associate Dave did the Port job of the exhaust housing to fit.
The exhaust wheel exducer is actually as large in size as the compressor wheel inducer, which will flow match well with 2.0+ litre with the 88mm stroke of 4G63 Turbo motor with slightly higher compression. As long as Jefferino makes sure to have the head flow a bit better (like a Honda VTEC head or similar), have it cleaned up with new retainers, a slight port, and a Magnus Intake Manifold, and a slightly higher redline (7800rpms should do it) this can easily reach over 660whp with this turbo. The only thing that would hurt flow from a turbo standpoint would be the E-Cover. An S-Cover would be in order.
This to me is what turbos are all about. Not just the 1320ft or the whp numbers and internet racing, but the actual design, specification and assembly of cool parts, and making sure that they perform to their maximum. I just want to knock out the competition in my own little way..... Except for you, Ken... You know you my boy!!
Modified by TheShodan at 2:23 PM 12/20/2005
Modified by TheShodan at 8:27 PM 12/22/2005
12-20-2005, 05:24 AM
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Re: (integranator)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integranator »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought the car was done a loooong time ago, like last summer?? Is the turbo the new addition?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That 2nd gen was completed, but the turbo had destroyed itself. I simply modified the rebuild to something a bit more interesting.
That 2nd gen was completed, but the turbo had destroyed itself. I simply modified the rebuild to something a bit more interesting.
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that wheel looks pretty big. lol
12-20-2005, 12:17 PM
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Re: (Dturbocivic)
I didn't realize that you were a fellow Xceeder....
Damn. I'll be talking to you in a little while about a price on a GT30R..
Hopefully Jeff is happy with the new setup...The car is pretty badass already.
Damn. I'll be talking to you in a little while about a price on a GT30R..
Hopefully Jeff is happy with the new setup...The car is pretty badass already.
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