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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Golden Eagle
if you replace the gasket do not use a fel pro gasket there junk only use oem we have tested most gaskets and nothing beets oem
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nowtype
y7/y8, have a lower base timing and have quench pads unlike any other Honda engine. Basically any Honda engine made between 1992-2000 can be tuned assuming 16* BTDC and a certain timing curve. Y8's and Y7's are different enough to throw a lot of tuners for a loop where you can't follow those base assumptions. 2 hours on the dyno doesn't give them a complete enough picture more often than not. As for paying Matt for his time, well, he can give you information based on theory and experience. It is better than 99% of the people on the board. You might even find some of the more reputable tuners on this board lacking knowledge in regards to the Y7/Y8 which he has. We'll see if you have any further problems. I can happily link you to Y7/Y8 owners who pop HG after HG until they end up selling the car.
Quench pads are nothing new. Ever looked at a GSR engine? Your timing theroy has little to do with those quench pads and more to do with the cam timing. Y8's aren't hard to tune either, so please don't give people this impression.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by m R g S r
what's HS?

I think ARP reccommended torquing to around 60ft lbs, I used the ARP lube and over torqued slightly, but did it in the correct pattern in 3 steps. If I remember correctly I did 25, 50, 70, well slightly less than 70, around 68 or so.
i thought it was 90 ft lbs of tq?
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hybrid96EK
Quench pads are nothing new. Ever looked at a GSR engine? Your timing theroy has little to do with those quench pads and more to do with the cam timing. Y8's aren't hard to tune either, so please don't give people this impression.
The quench pads in a D16y8 are nothing like what they are on a GSR. I also never said the vehicle was hard to tune. I said it was DIFFERENT than most other Honda engines and you can't assume them to be the same. A D16z6 can be tuned the same way as a B18b1, GSR, B16, h22, or f22 plus or minus vtak. D16y8's in standard OBD1 editors requires some end user knowledge to tune correctly.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 06:37 AM
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resurface the head check timing and if you dont have a breathing system get one
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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Felpro shouldnt be used either. Stick with OEM or a Cometic or similar.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ericy321
Felpro shouldnt be used either. Stick with OEM or a Cometic or similar.
stick with oem only cometic gasket are no good ether we see them fail over and over oem is the best gasket you can run
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nowtype
The quench pads in a D16y8 are nothing like what they are on a GSR. I also never said the vehicle was hard to tune. I said it was DIFFERENT than most other Honda engines and you can't assume them to be the same. A D16z6 can be tuned the same way as a B18b1, GSR, B16, h22, or f22 plus or minus vtak. D16y8's in standard OBD1 editors requires some end user knowledge to tune correctly.
Your statement was:

"y7/y8, have a lower base timing and have quench pads unlike any other Honda engine."

which is incorrect. You said nothing about how these pads were "different" then a GSR head. Care to explain to me how they are different? This should be interesting...


If it takes you 2 hours on the dyno to figure out the small difference in a Y8 then perhaps you shouldn't be tuning cars to begin with. I am using simple P30 inigition maps followed by a simple edit of the idle section on the low cam maps. Works perfectly fine, 0 issues. I don't see how the timing difference in these engines is anything special or why it would require the extensive amount of time to solve like you have stated. It sounds like you are stating what you have HEARD from others and not what you actually know for a fact to be true. Thats all I am saying...
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 07:09 AM
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Well I never checked back on this thread, but it was the radiator cap. Still boostin it daily and no problems with the fel pro gasket and apr headstuds.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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70 is the rec. torque for arp mains and head studs.
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