research, and buy what suits you...

oh, yea, my last car had an Fmax setup, customized, but the cast manifold was just fine. better than Drag in my opinion. And Inline Pro's cast manifold is awesome too.

i thought they crack from all the heat?

Jet coating them reduces heat and they are less prone to cracking

I would go with rev hard out of the two. However, if I was going with a kit, I would buy a max rev kit, it's cheaper and it offers everything that the other kits have. And the parts are better quality. Check them our at http://www.maxrev.com

I can get you a custom turbo kit that is just as good as revhard or drag if not better . . . and ontop of that the manifolds that come with the kit are backed by a life time warranty against cracking

tyson@genxperformance.net

if you have questions or would like to purchase

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Yeah cuz those never crack . I dunno about the "all manifolds crack" statement either.

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Yea that kit's not bad. I like those little features they added on there. Like flexpipe on the DP. Revhard dont have that.

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I could be wrong but from all the manifold's ive seen they do tend to crack.

i got a question, is there any serious benefits to having an "equal length" manifold such as the full-race manifold compared to wierd looking flat ones like the one that the max rev kit comes with?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thehondabuddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got a question, is there any serious benefits to having an "equal length" manifold such as the full-race manifold compared to wierd looking flat ones like the one that the max rev kit comes with?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think the benefits over a equal length and the log style type manifold is that the equal length air through all the runners flow at the same rate therefore pushing out equally amount of air at the same time to the turbo to better spool up as w/ the log style type it doesnt. But quote me on this, I could be wrong. Thats just what I think.

Well my Rev Hard kit came with the following;

Precision SC34 Turbo .60/.63
Rev Hard Iron Tubular Manifold
Tial 35mm Wastegate
30 x 8 x 3.5 Intercooler
2.5" Aluminum Charge Pipe w/HKS BOV
2.5" Downpipe

There is no way the drag is comparible....

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True that. Rev-hard is way better than drag, just because rev hard offers different stages of kits available while drag offers only 1. Thats rev hards advantage over drag. Price wise they are both about the same. What about the rev-hard kit compared to the sparks turbo kit? Which one would you say it better? Hard decision right there.

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True that. Rev-hard is way better than drag, just because rev hard offers different stages of kits available while drag offers only 1. Thats rev hards advantage over drag. Price wise they are both about the same. What about the rev-hard kit compared to the sparks turbo kit? Which one would you say it better? Hard decision right there.

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The spark racing turbo kit is nice.

what are the prices like on the sparks racing kits. Are they reliable for street-use? warranty? My setup is gonna be street/strip and i definately dont want to sacrifice power. I want to be able to spank muscle cars and shut up the american ******s around town, but yet have street reliability!?

Most definetly sparks turbo kits are realiable for street/strip use and at the same time you get the show quality look also. Comes w/ full polish I/C pipings, nice huge intercooer, all necessary bolts and accessory, very nice stainless steel equal lenght manifold and tial wastegate. Most kits dont offer the equal length manifold and if they do you'll pay an arm and a leg for it. The prices for the sparks kit is I believe a bit cheaper than the rev hard and drag kit. I've seen them go for around 2600-2800 for the whole complete kit. Good up to at least 250+ whp depending on what you got like fuel management. You will most definetly spank muscle cars w/ the sparks turbo kit (well actually any turbo would) plus on top of that you get looks also. But if the mustang is a cobra supercharged I dont think you'd be able to touch him unless you were on slicks(slixx, same thing..LoL). You must have lots done to your car in order to even keep up w/ one of them.


Anyways it might be something you wanna look into closely if you are in the market to getting a turbo kit. The range you want to pay for, the whp you are looking to be around..etc..etc.. If you want I can get you a sparks turbo kit also just let me know. Brand new shipped to your door. Ill find out more about the warranty issue if you are intrested.

ive done some research and it seems like the rev hard and drag kits are kinda weak. I am now debating over a sparks or max rev hit.

Will A walbro fuel pump and vortech fmu be able to withstand a sufficient amount of boost. What is this setup good to until i get some real fuel managment-hondata .

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What is so weak about the Rev Hard kit?

its not so much that it is weak but that there are kits for the same price that have more to offer.

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What?

I got a tubular manifold, PRECISION SC34 turbo, Tial Wastegate, 30x8x3.5 Spearco Intercooler, Aluminum Intercooler Piping, 2.5" Downpipe, HKS BOV all for $2,800 shipped.

What does the Max Rev & Spark kit have over my Rev Hard kit?

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I got a tubular manifold, PRECISION SC34 turbo, Tial Wastegate, 30x8x3.5 Spearco Intercooler, Aluminum Intercooler Piping, 2.5" Downpipe, HKS BOV all for $2,800 shipped.

What does the Max Rev & Spark kit have over my Rev Hard kit? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well Ryan, maybe to you it might be cheap cause you probably know Myles but i've bought a few stuffs from them and trust me they aint cheap. Quality wise they got it no doubt, but price wise for customers who do not have connection at buying the rev hard kit at your price. That kit would almost run them about 3500-5000....Aint I right???...Go to rev-hard.com and check out there prices...Sparks kit offer's almost the same identical kit for almost about $1000.00 off....big difference. Not to say anything bad about the rev hard kit, but they gotta do something about their pricing.....there's other kits out there that can produce as much whp as rev hards kit that are alot cheaper than theirs...so in my opinion i'd rather purchase theirs and save some money. Upgrading turbo later on down the road isnt a problem.

This is just my opinion.

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Well Ryan, maybe to you it might be cheap cause you probably know Myles but i've bought a few stuffs from them and trust me they aint cheap. Quality wise they got it no doubt, but price wise for customers who do not have connection at buying the rev hard kit at your price. That kit would almost run them about 3500-5000....Aint I right???...Go to rev-hard.com and check out there prices...Sparks kit offer's almost the same identical kit for almost about $1000.00 off....big difference. Not to say anything bad about the rev hard kit, but they gotta do something about their pricing.....there's other kits out there that can produce as much whp as rev hards kit that are alot cheaper than theirs...so in my opinion i'd rather purchase theirs and save some money. Upgrading turbo later on down the road isnt a problem.

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hmmm, I don't know anyone @ rev hard. I'm just a customer like yourself. I looked on H-T and found a good deal.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=428602

well in that case it's a different story. you cant compare buying it from others than buying it straight from rev hard. if you were to buy it straight from there shop, there's no way you'd get a deal like that for that cheap and thats a gaurentee unless you are like first blood related cousins. if paying all that much for their kit, i rather be piecing up my own turbo kit than buy their kits and would get a way better kit, and it will also produce even more power and the good thing is it's with the stuffs that I like.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slixxracing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well in that case it's a different story. you cant compare buying it from others than buying it straight from rev hard. if you were to buy it straight from there shop, there's no way you'd get a deal like that for that cheap and thats a gaurentee unless you are like first blood related cousins. if paying all that much for their kit, i rather be piecing up my own turbo kit than buy their kits and would get a way better kit, and it will also produce even more power and the good thing is it's with the stuffs that I like. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, imo. Rev Hards MSRP is freakin' rediculous.

has anyone has any experience with spark or max rev kits? quality? performance?